Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " wedwardwatkins " <wedwardwatkins> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " wedwardwatkins " > > > <wedwardwatkins> wrote: > > > > Been checking this space out for a little while, and now want to > > > > thank you for this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you change an adjective into a noun.....All is lost. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a piercing insight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I don't quite get: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seeing that is a window. > > > > > > > > > > > > A window to what? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eddiewat > > > > > > > > > In a few....it seems that a break in the thought stream > > occurs.....an ancient > > > memory opens a window .............Home......perfume of > > > Heaven....Dulcinea..........Elesian Fields.........sweet > > unspeakable openess....... > > > > > > > > > > > > You know what I mean........................Don't You? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > Sure do. But aren't those nouns, however transparent? > > > > > > Thanks for your sparkling clarity, btw. > only adjectives spoken here.................:-) > > > toombaru I believe you. I only ask because these images -- Elysian Fields, heavenly perfume, ananda, & c. -- can have such a seductive appeal that at times, with the best intentions, they can be detrimental to realizing Reality; they can become an unintentional goal. It's not that I doubt the sweetness of them, or even the truth of them, as a kind of compassionate shadow (a sort of reward) of image-free Reality; but they have so many associations that can correspond to mundane bodily life and subsequently spawn countless images, and emotions associated with those images, in the mind. eddiewat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Nisargadatta , " wedwardwatkins " <wedwardwatkins> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " wedwardwatkins " > <wedwardwatkins> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wedwardwatkins " > > > > <wedwardwatkins> wrote: > > > > > Been checking this space out for a little while, and now want > to > > > > > thank you for this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you change an adjective into a noun.....All is lost. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a piercing insight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I don't quite get: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seeing that is a window. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A window to what? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eddiewat > > > > > > > > > > > > In a few....it seems that a break in the thought stream > > > occurs.....an ancient > > > > memory opens a window .............Home......perfume of > > > > Heaven....Dulcinea..........Elesian Fields.........sweet > > > unspeakable openess....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You know what I mean........................Don't You? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure do. But aren't those nouns, however transparent? > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your sparkling clarity, btw. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only adjectives spoken here.................:-) > > > > > > toombaru > > > > I believe you. I only ask because these images -- Elysian Fields, > heavenly perfume, ananda, & c. -- can have such a seductive appeal They are seductive...for a reason. > that at times, with the best intentions, they can be detrimental to > realizing Reality; The 'realizer' is an integral part of the 'reality " he is attempting to realize. Think on this for a while. > they can become an unintentional goal. Only if you assume that there exists an autonomous volitional entity to whom that could happen. >It's not > that I doubt the sweetness of them, or even the truth of them, as a > kind of compassionate shadow (a sort of reward) of image-free > Reality; but they have so many associations that can correspond to > mundane bodily life and subsequently spawn countless images, and > emotions associated with those images, in the mind. It's all mind candy. Outside of mind.........nothing is. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " wedwardwatkins " <wedwardwatkins> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " wedwardwatkins " > > <wedwardwatkins> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > wrote: > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wedwardwatkins " > > > > > <wedwardwatkins> wrote: > > > > > > Been checking this space out for a little while, and now want > > to > > > > > > thank you for this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you change an adjective into a noun.....All is lost. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a piercing insight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I don't quite get: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seeing that is a window. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A window to what? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eddiewat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a few....it seems that a break in the thought stream > > > > occurs.....an ancient > > > > > memory opens a window .............Home......perfume of > > > > > Heaven....Dulcinea..........Elesian Fields.........sweet > > > > unspeakable openess....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You know what I mean........................Don't You? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure do. But aren't those nouns, however transparent? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your sparkling clarity, btw. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only adjectives spoken here.................:-) > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > I believe you. I only ask because these images -- Elysian Fields, > > heavenly perfume, ananda, & c. -- can have such a seductive appeal > > > > They are seductive...for a reason. Ahhh... but it still seems potentially perilous. Ahhh... but that's the point. Thanks. > > > > > > > that at times, with the best intentions, they can be detrimental to > > realizing Reality; > > > > > > The 'realizer' is an integral part of the 'reality " he is attempting to realize. > > > Think on this for a while. It's clear to me > > they can become an unintentional goal. > > > > > > Only if you assume that there exists an autonomous volitional entity to whom that could > happen. > > > >It's not > > that I doubt the sweetness of them, or even the truth of them, as a > > kind of compassionate shadow (a sort of reward) of image-free > > Reality; but they have so many associations that can correspond to > > mundane bodily life and subsequently spawn countless images, and > > emotions associated with those images, in the mind. > > > It's all mind candy. And we're all busy blowing big bubble worlds that we can't even see around > > > Outside of mind.........nothing is. With what can this be known? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Nisargadatta , " wedwardwatkins " <wedwardwatkins> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " wedwardwatkins " > <wedwardwatkins> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wedwardwatkins " > > > <wedwardwatkins> wrote: > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > <cptc@w...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wedwardwatkins " > > > > > > <wedwardwatkins> wrote: > > > > > > > Been checking this space out for a little while, and now > want > > > to > > > > > > > thank you for this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you change an adjective into a noun.....All is > lost. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a piercing insight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I don't quite get: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seeing that is a window. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A window to what? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eddiewat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a few....it seems that a break in the thought stream > > > > > occurs.....an ancient > > > > > > memory opens a window .............Home......perfume of > > > > > > Heaven....Dulcinea..........Elesian Fields.........sweet > > > > > unspeakable openess....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You know what I mean........................Don't You? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure do. But aren't those nouns, however transparent? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your sparkling clarity, btw. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only adjectives spoken here.................:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe you. I only ask because these images -- Elysian Fields, > > > heavenly perfume, ananda, & c. -- can have such a seductive appeal > > > > > > > > They are seductive...for a reason. > > > > Ahhh... but it still seems potentially perilous. Ahhh... but that's > the point. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that at times, with the best intentions, they can be detrimental > to > > > realizing Reality; > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'realizer' is an integral part of the 'reality " he is > attempting to realize. > > > > > > Think on this for a while. > > > > It's clear to me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they can become an unintentional goal. > > > > > > > > > > > > Only if you assume that there exists an autonomous volitional > entity to whom that could > > happen. > > > > > > >It's not > > > that I doubt the sweetness of them, or even the truth of them, as > a > > > kind of compassionate shadow (a sort of reward) of image-free > > > Reality; but they have so many associations that can correspond > to > > > mundane bodily life and subsequently spawn countless images, and > > > emotions associated with those images, in the mind. > > > > > > It's all mind candy. > > > > And we're all busy blowing big bubble worlds that we can't even see > around > > The 'seer' and the 'seen' are one. The 'I am " is the bubble. > > > > > > > Outside of mind.........nothing is. > > > > With what can this be known? It can be intuited by mind.....but never grasp. THIS...is as close an 'you' can get. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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