Real Love and Pollyanna AND Buddha and YOU.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery>

wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...>

> wrote:

> > OM Tony –

> > If " we " are going to communicate what do we have to take for

> > granted?

> >

> > The imaginary ego called " I " takes Advaita for granted and it

> tells

> > me that there is no doer. The only Reality is Self, that is the

> > beyond-name-and-form Samadhi. Everything else is complete and

> > unadulterated flagrant fiction.

> >

> > I keep hearing all this unfathomable bullshit about " cleansing "

> and

> > purification and .. god know what – BUT THERE IS NO DOER THAT CAN

> get

> > dirty to be purified, OR PRACTICE some sort of voodoo MUMBO

> JUMBO

> > FOR THE SAKE OF being saved – from being a doer, when there is no

> > doer.

> >

> > There is no doer that can get dirty to get clean – it is all

the

> > mind playing games with itself.

> >

> > And, again, this is not " my " opinion for there is no " I " that

can

> > have an opinion. This is all just part of the dream, fiction ,

> the

> > Joy of entertainment called maya, life.

> >

> > the LOVE that all is

> > gp

>

> Namaste GP,

>

> Ultimately that is true. However to achieve a full realisation it

> seems, according to the Sages, that a purified Vijnanamayakosa is

> required. For samskaras and vasanas will hold one back so to speak.

> The Vedantic scriptures indicate that a worshipper of Saguna

Brahman

> doesn't proceed to Nirguna but to a higher state of consciousness

or

> Brahmaloka. The Jiva would stay in this heaven state until pralaya,

> where it would be subsumed and not emerge in the next projection of

> the universes. The final thought of devotion being destroyed. And

> the final truth is there---that it never ever

> happened.....IMHO...ONS...Tony.

>============================

OM Tony –

You were perfect the second you were born and everything the Self has

done in your name has been done perfectly. You, the imaginary I ,

has never done anything. To think that " I " or " You " have committed

the likes of a sin is to think that the Self has screwed up with one

of its roles.

 

I was raised by Jesuits and they learned me their guilt and shame as

they played with their little boys. They called it a sacrament. For

over twenty five years I lived with their shame and guilt until " I "

realized that I have never done anything. The Self played my role

perfectly, as it did the roles of the Jesuits and their little boys.

 

And if the scriptures, and their experts, say that the Self does not

play all the roles perfectly then they are also playing their

roles no better than any criminal and pervert and pope. And then some.

 

And I need no sages (Jesuits or Vedanitc gurus) to tell the imaginary

me that if a murderer or rapist or terrorist is Aware that the Self

is playing its role perfectly then such a criminal is just as Awake

as was Buddha, Jesus and Ramana.

 

It has taken a long time for me to be able to write that, but only

because I thought I was the writer. Now I could care less about

what " I " write because there is no doer called " I " that can write so

why should " I " care about the things that " I " cannot be writing.

 

You are the exact same perfection called Buddha, Jesus and Ramana

is/was and only thoughts, your mind, and its Vedantic sages, can

think otherwise.

 

LOVE you

gp