Guest guest Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 P: But pray tell, loving Gene, how do you reconcile the above with > > the Self=love? Could the Self be into SM? It would seem so, if > > it were conscious and responsible for its actions. If suicide > > bombers, and GB, and BTK are equally the SELF, we must > > either conclude the Self doesn't know what goes on, or > > it's not all that loving. Let's talk evil vs. love, if you are game. >========================= gp: If I cannot get beyond the duality of evil and love then what am I doing at this non-duality group? Buddha, Krishna and even Jesus and Ramana did not see any difference between the saint and sinner because to the Self there is none – P: Are you on that same level with the holy dudes cited above, Gene? Are you saying murder and helter skelter are OK? GP: it is all just a Show, movie, maya in which the sinner is a saint one minute so that in the next he can be a criminal. P: Is that you, Gene, are you a criminal? Do you actually know anyone who is a saint one minute and a criminal the next, or is that just your belief? .. ============================= > > > > PS. Are you related to the Pelota who discovered the > > Pelota gene? > gp: Heh, I am the Pelota gene. Why the hell not. I'm everything else in my dream. P: Can you give straight answers, or you are just a platitude and evasion specialist? If you want to teach you have to do better than evade the soft balls. If you step up to the plate, you have to swing the bat, chum. ============================== > *** > > >Hey, Pete: > > Why do bad things happen to good people, eh? Oh, boy... here come the >====================== GP:Nisargadatta was all about Advaita, or am I in the wrong group? P: LOL, now that you mention it, you belong with the 11 members of your group. You need only one more Gene and we can crucified you. ) G: IN Advaita there is no doer. So there are no good people any more than there are bad peoples. It's all just maya, entertainment as the Self plays hide and seek with its imaginary doers. P: Yep, No doer: Ramesh alibi to molest and defraud. .. ie there is no doer. > >theologians... > > > > fuzzie > > **** > > P: Indeed! Why? > > If there was a plan, or planner for life, > why abandon the protophage feeding model of > plants (which manufacture nutrients from > sunlight, water and soil) in favor of the > autophage in which animals feed on animals, > and then evolve consciousness and pain to > really rub it in. Doesn't this plan sounds a > bit sadistic/masochistic? ============================== Pelota Gene: Project this question into a dream and then ask the same questions that you can then answer as another imaginary doer in your dream in which you are all the imaginary doers. It is all just a play of words, and their imaginary egos. Its all about dreaming and the not-dreaming, the dreamless-sleep called Samadhi. an echo: It is all really very simple -- so simple that there is no mind simple enough to understand it. the Pelota Gene =========================== P: You are the dreamer. You take your beliefs for reality. What do you have to show besides beliefs? Any insights of your own? Speak before the Ump yells, STRike THREE! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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