Guest guest Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> > > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > > F: There is no " planner for life. " It is what it is. > > The " planner " is a > > > > concoction of imagination. There are a myriad of life forms of > > every > > > > fashion. Some have come and gone. Some have yet to evolve. There > > is no > > > > rhyme or reason. It is life and life only. > > > > > > > > P: Exactly! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why make animals so frail in a planet with > > > > > so much natural disasters? Doesn't sound > > > > > too loving to me! So, love is just a human > > > > > emotion, like anger and hate. And no > > > > > liberated human brain will murder, or rape, > > > > > that idea is just bullshit. Cruelty is a > > > > > dreamlike act, and is not consistent with > > > > > being fully awaken. > > > > Namaste, > > > > A good enough pointer for this creation never having ever happened > > is the animals. > > > > What kind of 'God' would put them through so much pain for his own > > amusement or whatever. Balance would be achieved differently, or > > anyway this 'God' wanted. Even in illusion there is no 'God' doing > > anything but providing the fuel the energy. Everything is prana and > > karma and there is no retributive karma for animals. > > > > That is why praying is only a self calming procedure; unless one is > > praying to a Spirit, Saint or Deva, then perhaps there may be some > > argument for some intervention in some way? If even at the mental > > level. > > > > So either this is total illusion or God is a cruel, vindictive, > > unintelligent super spirit and a bad manager to boot. > > > > In illusion this is obviously a hell plane, and built on chaos and > > seemingly random events, due to karma or action and reaction. > > > > There is no Sakti, or Goddess or anything to help anyone. > > > > 'God' only helps those that help themselves, so as an aid, the idea > > or concept of an interfering God is superflous. > > > > It disappears in Samadhi, Deep Sleep and bodiless moksha so it never > > ever happened. No 'God' but Nir Guna.............ONS..Tony. > > > It's all just conditioning. People are conditioned to believe various > things and so it is. They have visions of Mary and Jesus in the West. > Visions of Maitreya and Bodhisattvas in the East. Visions of Paradise > in the Muslim World. And so on and so forth. Whatever you're > programmed to believe, that is what you see. In fact, it's all make > believe. You and I are make believe. It's all like a movie, like a > dream. All kinds of life forms filtering consciousness through an > infinite assortment of body/mind complexes. > > There is no one doing this. It does itself. > > fuzzie Fuzzie -- you said it all. There is nothing left to write/say worship, adore, seek. But then what does a Nothing like me know about knowing and seeking? Give us all the hell you can for the karma that maya needs for its entertainment gp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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