Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 -- Arjuna, all roads lead to me -- It seems obvious that the concept of imaginary-doers threatens many of us. So let us try and forget that we are imaginary-doers for a while so we can communicate. We can follow the scriptures and their devotion, meditation, works and knowledge to " enlightenment. " Or we can study how dreams work and wake up relatively quickly. Or we can study how language creates our realities and wake up even quicker. Once we understand how language creates our realities it becomes very obvious why most of us are threatened by any language that threatens our individuality, our ego. Language: whatever we are allowed to talk about turns into our reality. And whatever we are not allowed to talk about defines our " ignorances. " In the Dark Ages language made witches real and so they had to be burned. The only reason we do not burn witches today is not because our language does not make them real enough to need burning. A far easier way to get Realized is so simple that I have to be literally insane to think of it. A far easier way to wake up is not with knowledge or wisdom or devotions or anything else. The quickest way is by examining what we have been programmed to react to with fear, anger and hate. It is so simple. Take one fear that most of us have been programmed to have: death. If you can understand how we have been programmed for death to be a phobia – this alone will wake you up to our spiritual-reality. If we could get rid of our phobia called death we would instantly wake up from this dream/nightmare called religions and healthcare. But there is an even quicker road to Awakening It's called the Pavlovian reflex. The PAVLOVIAN REFEX works with no more need for a brain, intellect, than a dog needs to salivate to the sound of a bell. If we just take the time and effort to study the Pavlovian reflex we will instantly wake up and realize that all dualities come from nothing more than a Pavlovian reflex. For example, if words pavlovly give me cocksure and top-dog good-feelings of pride and righteousness then I'm smart and if words pavlovly give me bad- feelings of shame, guilt, anxiety, fear then I'm stupid. Is it really that simple? Observe how " stupid " people react to words with their good and bad feelings and you might just wake up to how we have all been programmed pavlovly. The Pavlovian reflex is the only reason on this earth that one person would react to the word like " devil " with bad-feelings of fear, anger and hate while another (devil worshipers) can pavlovly react to the same word " devil " with good-feelings of pride and righteousness. It is that supremely simple: from every imaginable direction dualism is based on the Pavlovian reflex -- with more need for a brain than a dog needs to salivate to the sound of a bell. And only when we allow ourselves to take language beyond dualities can we look back and realize just how well the Pavlovian reflex has worked to create and maintain ALL dualities. That is all that dualities are: the Pavlovian reflex -- with no more need for a brain or intellect than a dog needs to salivate to the sound of a bell. If you can understand that the whole dualistic concept of knowledge and ignorance is nothing more than a Pavlovian reflex you will be AWAKE – you will be Self-realized. And only those gurus that need lots of money for all their expensive ashrams, magic and miracles can think otherwise. And if you can understand how the Pavlovian reflex is the root of all knowledge and ignorance you might just understand the following: =-= If you are dumb enough then you will accept what Nisargadatta and Papaji keep trying to tell us: that nothing has happened. Yes if you are dumb enough you will realize that you have never done anything. And if you are really dumb then you will also realize that you have never had an original thought. And if you are really-really dumb you will also realize that you have never had any thoughts. And if you are smart enough to add these three levels of dumbness together then you will be Awake, Self-realized, because it takes this total dumbness to tells us that yes, Nothing has ever happened. And only someone less dumb than you can think otherwise. and just like in the movies: THE END Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 - Gene Polotas Nisargadatta Sunday, May 15, 2005 10:37 AM dualism is a Pavlovian refex -- Arjuna, all roads lead to me -- It seems obvious that the concept of imaginary-doers threatens many of us. So let us try and forget that we are imaginary-doers for a while so we can communicate. We can follow the scriptures and their devotion, meditation, works and knowledge to " enlightenment. " Or we can study how dreams work and wake up relatively quickly. Or we can study how language creates our realities and wake up even quicker. Once we understand how language creates our realities it becomes very obvious why most of us are threatened by any language that threatens our individuality, our ego. Language: whatever we are allowed to talk about turns into our reality. And whatever we are not allowed to talk about defines our " ignorances. " In the Dark Ages language made witches real and so they had to be burned. The only reason we do not burn witches today is not because our language does not make them real enough to need burning. A far easier way to get Realized is so simple that I have to be literally insane to think of it. A far easier way to wake up is not with knowledge or wisdom or devotions or anything else. The quickest way is by examining what we have been programmed to react to with fear, anger and hate. It is so simple. Take one fear that most of us have been programmed to have: death. If you can understand how we have been programmed for death to be a phobia - this alone will wake you up to our spiritual-reality. If we could get rid of our phobia called death we would instantly wake up from this dream/nightmare called religions and healthcare. But there is an even quicker road to Awakening It's called the Pavlovian reflex. The PAVLOVIAN REFEX works with no more need for a brain, intellect, than a dog needs to salivate to the sound of a bell. If we just take the time and effort to study the Pavlovian reflex we will instantly wake up and realize that all dualities come from nothing more than a Pavlovian reflex. For example, if words pavlovly give me cocksure and top-dog good-feelings of pride and righteousness then I'm smart and if words pavlovly give me bad- feelings of shame, guilt, anxiety, fear then I'm stupid. Is it really that simple? Observe how " stupid " people react to words with their good and bad feelings and you might just wake up to how we have all been programmed pavlovly. The Pavlovian reflex is the only reason on this earth that one person would react to the word like " devil " with bad-feelings of fear, anger and hate while another (devil worshipers) can pavlovly react to the same word " devil " with good-feelings of pride and righteousness. It is that supremely simple: from every imaginable direction dualism is based on the Pavlovian reflex -- with more need for a brain than a dog needs to salivate to the sound of a bell. And only when we allow ourselves to take language beyond dualities can we look back and realize just how well the Pavlovian reflex has worked to create and maintain ALL dualities. That is all that dualities are: the Pavlovian reflex -- with no more need for a brain or intellect than a dog needs to salivate to the sound of a bell. If you can understand that the whole dualistic concept of knowledge and ignorance is nothing more than a Pavlovian reflex you will be AWAKE - you will be Self-realized. And only those gurus that need lots of money for all their expensive ashrams, magic and miracles can think otherwise. And if you can understand how the Pavlovian reflex is the root of all knowledge and ignorance you might just understand the following: =-= If you are dumb enough then you will accept what Nisargadatta and Papaji keep trying to tell us: that nothing has happened. Yes if you are dumb enough you will realize that you have never done anything. And if you are really dumb then you will also realize that you have never had an original thought. And if you are really-really dumb you will also realize that you have never had any thoughts. And if you are smart enough to add these three levels of dumbness together then you will be Awake, Self-realized, because it takes this total dumbness to tells us that yes, Nothing has ever happened. And only someone less dumb than you can think otherwise. and just like in the movies: THE END Now, we know, the world according to Gene Polotas... a. ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...> wrote: > -- Arjuna, all roads lead to me -- > > It seems obvious that the concept of imaginary-doers threatens many > of us. > > So let us try and forget that we are imaginary-doers for a while so > we can communicate. > > We can follow the scriptures and their devotion, meditation, works > and knowledge to " enlightenment. " > > Or we can study how dreams work and wake up relatively quickly. > > Or we can study how language creates our realities and wake up even > quicker. > > Once we understand how language creates our realities it becomes very > obvious why most of us are threatened by any language that threatens > our individuality, our ego. > > Language: whatever we are allowed to talk about turns into our > reality. And whatever we are not allowed to talk about defines our > " ignorances. " > > In the Dark Ages language made witches real and so they had to be > burned. The only reason we do not burn witches today is not because > our language does not make them real enough to need burning. > > A far easier way to get Realized is so simple that I have to be > literally insane to think of it. > A far easier way to wake up is not with knowledge or wisdom or > devotions or anything else. The quickest way is by examining what we > have been programmed to react to with fear, anger and hate. > It is so simple. Take one fear that most of us have been programmed > to have: death. > > If you can understand how we have been programmed for death to be a > phobia – this alone will wake you up to our spiritual-reality. > > If we could get rid of our phobia called death we would > instantly wake up from this dream/nightmare called religions and > healthcare. > > But there is an even quicker road to Awakening It's called the > Pavlovian reflex. > > The PAVLOVIAN REFEX works with no more need for a brain, intellect, > than a dog needs to salivate to the sound of a bell. > > If we just take the time and effort to study the Pavlovian reflex we > will instantly wake up and realize that all dualities come from > nothing more than a Pavlovian reflex. For example, if words pavlovly > give me cocksure and top-dog good-feelings of pride and > righteousness then I'm smart and if words pavlovly give me bad- > feelings of shame, guilt, anxiety, fear then I'm stupid. > > Is it really that simple? Observe how " stupid " people > react to words with their good and bad feelings and you might just > wake up to how we have all been programmed pavlovly. > > The Pavlovian reflex is the only reason on this earth that one > person would react to the word like " devil " with bad-feelings of > fear, anger and hate while another (devil worshipers) can pavlovly > react to the same word " devil " with good-feelings of pride and > righteousness. > > It is that supremely simple: from every imaginable direction dualism > is based on the Pavlovian reflex -- with more need for a brain than > a dog needs to salivate to the sound of a bell. And only when we > allow ourselves to take language beyond dualities can we look back > and realize just how well the Pavlovian reflex has worked to create > and maintain ALL dualities. That is all that dualities are: the > Pavlovian reflex -- with no more need for a brain or intellect than a > dog needs to salivate to the sound of a bell. > > If you can understand that the whole dualistic concept of knowledge > and ignorance is nothing more than a Pavlovian reflex you will be > AWAKE – you will be Self-realized. And only those gurus that > need lots of money for all their expensive ashrams, magic and > miracles can think otherwise. > > And if you can understand how the Pavlovian reflex is the root of > all knowledge and ignorance you might just understand the following: > =-= > If you are dumb enough then you will accept what Nisargadatta and > Papaji keep trying to tell us: that nothing has happened. > > Yes if you are dumb enough you will realize that you have never done > anything. > And if you are really dumb then you will also realize that you have > never had an original thought. > And if you are really-really dumb you will also realize that you have > never had any thoughts. > And if you are smart enough to add these three levels of dumbness > together then you will be Awake, Self-realized, because it takes this > total dumbness to tells us that yes, Nothing has ever happened. > > And only someone less dumb than you can think otherwise. > > and just like in the movies: THE END I'm not really sure that I want a bunch of make believe characters waking up..... That's kinda scary. Little clots of memories congealing.....wiggling around and becoming real....... Who knows what's gonna come out of that? :-0 toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 From where-ever this might be coming from, to where-ever it may be going, I have to say: thanks for this piece of work, gene. I much appreciate it this morning. Keep it up. bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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