Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Hi Pete, L: > What sort of pain felt? What kind of tears shed? What great fruit do you imagine will be borne by pondering those questions? How do you >imagine the hearing Pete? >Do you also wish answers to those questions, as to: ..it is possible that I was completely wrong, Right On or somewhere in the middle. If >you wish, you can tell (us) which one it is? Lewis P: My post wasn't intended as a dig. You were the one who mentioned pain, and tears. I was just pointing to the useful nature of those reactions in self discovery. If you don't feel inclined to inquire, just forget it. I have nothing to add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 In a message dated 5/22/05 11:46:46 AM, Nisargadatta writes: > Sun, 22 May 2005 18:21:12 -0000 > " Lewis Burgess " <lbb10 > Re: Lewis-Last > P: Nothing to add, again, to this long, defensive, poetic bullshit. ) Nothing new below. > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > Hi Pete, > > > > L: > What sort of pain felt? What kind of tears shed? What great > fruit do > > you imagine will be borne by pondering those questions? How do you > > >imagine the hearing Pete? > > > > >Do you also wish answers to those questions, as to: ..it is possible > > that I was completely wrong, Right On or somewhere in the middle. If > > >you wish, you can tell (us) which one it is? > > > > Lewis > > > > P: My post wasn't intended as a dig. You were the one who mentioned > pain, and > > tears. I was just pointing to the useful nature of those reactions in > > self discovery. If you don't feel inclined to inquire, just forget it. > > I have nothing to add. > > > Lewis: Is it to be said that there is defending above? Is it to be > said " Stop defending intentions, " or " self? " Can it be mistakenly > " heard " that what is above is the whine of a hunter snared in his own > trap; in his good work? > > Yet, what defense could possibly be there in this hearing or any > hearing? As we are spoken and never speaking, it is the heard that is > important never the hearing as that lies on the surface, superficial, > empty and attractive to the same.....Seeing defenses is the dream > world of ego hunters, the seers of others where there is only one. > > There is no defense seen. > > And is there something to add my lovely? > > It has been added already. > > " Pain " and " tears " are words isolated from the flow and cannot be > taken to be isolated from the search, memories, calm or anything else > as it flows as all one and is called up, housed in these paltry > vehicles, to be offered, experienced as a past, a fleeting memory, as > it goes to a call, a question asked/answered and......a hearing > requested, with many " heards " ensuing. > > And what is known now my dear one of those sensations underlying the > words " pain " and " tears " so deeply mingled with the flow of life and > abstracted at a calling...? Has it been long that " tears " and " pain " > in the flow have not watered the garden of life so that there appears > a Bushido rooted, empty shelled samurai lopping off heads cleanly and > calmly in an immaculate garden with only the swift sound of the blade > through the air and meeting the neck to signal an end to a reverie? Or > is the garden watered, alive with the diversity of life flowing and > seen in all? Or is their a cacophony of voices each striving to emit a > cry and howl or is a child lost crying for mother..., all those spoken > that are one life, one flow.......? > > Lewis > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > Hi Pete, > > L: > What sort of pain felt? What kind of tears shed? What great fruit do > you imagine will be borne by pondering those questions? How do you > >imagine the hearing Pete? > > >Do you also wish answers to those questions, as to: ..it is possible > that I was completely wrong, Right On or somewhere in the middle. If > >you wish, you can tell (us) which one it is? > > Lewis > > P: My post wasn't intended as a dig. You were the one who mentioned pain, and > tears. I was just pointing to the useful nature of those reactions in > self discovery. If you don't feel inclined to inquire, just forget it. > I have nothing to add. Lewis: Is it to be said that there is defending above? Is it to be said " Stop defending intentions, " or " self? " Can it be mistakenly " heard " that what is above is the whine of a hunter snared in his own trap; in his good work? Yet, what defense could possibly be there in this hearing or any hearing? As we are spoken and never speaking, it is the heard that is important never the hearing as that lies on the surface, superficial, empty and attractive to the same.....Seeing defenses is the dream world of ego hunters, the seers of others where there is only one. There is no defense seen. And is there something to add my lovely? It has been added already. " Pain " and " tears " are words isolated from the flow and cannot be taken to be isolated from the search, memories, calm or anything else as it flows as all one and is called up, housed in these paltry vehicles, to be offered, experienced as a past, a fleeting memory, as it goes to a call, a question asked/answered and......a hearing requested, with many " heards " ensuing. And what is known now my dear one of those sensations underlying the words " pain " and " tears " so deeply mingled with the flow of life and abstracted at a calling...? Has it been long that " tears " and " pain " in the flow have not watered the garden of life so that there appears a Bushido rooted, empty shelled samurai lopping off heads cleanly and calmly in an immaculate garden with only the swift sound of the blade through the air and meeting the neck to signal an end to a reverie? Or is the garden watered, alive with the diversity of life flowing and seen in all? Or is their a cacophony of voices each striving to emit a cry and howl or is a child lost crying for mother..., all those spoken that are one life, one flow.......? Lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 5/22/05 11:46:46 AM, Nisargadatta writes: > > > > Sun, 22 May 2005 18:21:12 -0000 > > " Lewis Burgess " <lbb10@c...> > > Re: Lewis-Last Lewis: Ah so! LOL. Always the same below > P: Nothing to add, again, to this long, defensive, poetic > bullshit. ) > > Nothing new below. > > > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > Hi Pete, > > > > > > L: > What sort of pain felt? What kind of tears shed? What great > > fruit do > > > you imagine will be borne by pondering those questions? How do you > > > >imagine the hearing Pete? > > > > > > >Do you also wish answers to those questions, as to: ..it is possible > > > that I was completely wrong, Right On or somewhere in the middle. If > > > >you wish, you can tell (us) which one it is? > > > > > > Lewis > > > > > > P: My post wasn't intended as a dig. You were the one who mentioned > > pain, and > > > tears. I was just pointing to the useful nature of those reactions in > > > self discovery. If you don't feel inclined to inquire, just forget it. > > > I have nothing to add. > > > > > > Lewis: Is it to be said that there is defending above? Is it to be > > said " Stop defending intentions, " or " self? " Can it be mistakenly > > " heard " that what is above is the whine of a hunter snared in his own > > trap; in his good work? > > > > Yet, what defense could possibly be there in this hearing or any > > hearing? As we are spoken and never speaking, it is the heard that is > > important never the hearing as that lies on the surface, superficial, > > empty and attractive to the same.....Seeing defenses is the dream > > world of ego hunters, the seers of others where there is only one. > > > > There is no defense seen. > > > > And is there something to add my lovely? > > > > It has been added already. > > > > " Pain " and " tears " are words isolated from the flow and cannot be > > taken to be isolated from the search, memories, calm or anything else > > as it flows as all one and is called up, housed in these paltry > > vehicles, to be offered, experienced as a past, a fleeting memory, as > > it goes to a call, a question asked/answered and......a hearing > > requested, with many " heards " ensuing. > > > > And what is known now my dear one of those sensations underlying the > > words " pain " and " tears " so deeply mingled with the flow of life and > > abstracted at a calling...? Has it been long that " tears " and " pain " > > in the flow have not watered the garden of life so that there appears > > a Bushido rooted, empty shelled samurai lopping off heads cleanly and > > calmly in an immaculate garden with only the swift sound of the blade > > through the air and meeting the neck to signal an end to a reverie? Or > > is the garden watered, alive with the diversity of life flowing and > > seen in all? Or is their a cacophony of voices each striving to emit a > > cry and howl or is a child lost crying for mother..., all those spoken > > that are one life, one flow.......? > > > > Lewis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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