Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Lewis Burgess " <lbb10@c...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Lewis Burgess " <lbb10@c...> > > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...> > > wrote: > > > > Give up all questions except one: 'Who am I?' > > > > > > > > When the answer adds up to Zero, nothing, then I am Everything. > > > > > > > > -- the wisdom of thoughts > > > > > > > > > How does the answer add up to Zero, nothing? > > > > > > What happens after the answer adds up to Zero, nothing, and I am > > > Everything; when I am Everything what goes on, what is done? > > > > > > Lewis > > >============================== > > Thoughts " go on " -- and nothing is ever done, and so nothing > > is going on, only the thoughts that think they do, when there is no > > thinking, nor doing, only the thoughts. > > > > So thinking with its questions and answers is an exercise in futility > > because there is no such thing as thinking only the thought thinking. > > > > And compared to the Reality that is Everything all thoughts are > > Nothing, zero. > > > > -- thoughts from Nothing > > > The futility of questions and answers and thoughts thinking applies to > the futility of declarative statements as well. All require futile > thinking or thought thinking, even questions and answers. It can be > well assumed that " thinking " or thought thinking is a futile exercise > and insignificant in these matters. > > So it is agreed that: ... " compared to the Reality that is Everything > all thoughts are Nothing, zero. " > > And so the question and statements below amount to the same and > having no privilege over any other thought thought or spoken, they are > Nothing, zero. Are they unnecessarily stated? Are they to be heeded? > > " Give up all questions except one: 'Who am I?' " > > " When the answer adds up to Zero, nothing, then I am Everything. " > > For the Master and follower: Is the Master divided when he speaks the > " truth, " painting dualities in words from somewhere that point to an > imagined nonduality, an reachable thought object (Zero)? And does > that " truth " in words (above) structure a thought prison for the > Master and the employer of the words? > > Or is it some other thought thinking? A futility? > > Lewis >===================================== The answers to questions are so simple that you can not only answer you're your questions but laugh at the same time. Pretend you are in a dream and then you ask these questions, in your dream. In a dream you are the dreamer, the dreaming and everything in the dream. You ask the questions and so you want someone in your dream to answer them. But in a dream you are that someone – so go ahead and answer the questions as this someone. If you can understand how a dream works then for the first time in your life you can understand how absurd it is to ask questions so that you can then look for answers. It is so absurd that it is the Supreme Comedy called maya, life, living. It is absurd because the answer can make no difference. The answer can literally be anything because it can make no difference because the mind is what it thinks it thinks when there is no thinking. The mind is what it thinks it thinks regardless of its questions and answers. All because in Reality nothing ever happens. And because nothing ever happens the questions and their answers can make no difference. Questions and answers are just a play of words that maya needs to be entertaining, Joy -- just like these words that think they will add up to Nothing, not even questions or answers. -- thoughts from nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Lewis Burgess " <lbb10@c...> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...> > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " Lewis Burgess " <lbb10@c...> > > > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " > <semmin@e...> > > > wrote: > > > > > Give up all questions except one: 'Who am I?' > > > > > > > > > > When the answer adds up to Zero, nothing, then I am > Everything. > > > > > > > > > > -- the wisdom of thoughts > > > > > > > > > > > > How does the answer add up to Zero, nothing? > > > > > > > > What happens after the answer adds up to Zero, nothing, and I am > > > > Everything; when I am Everything what goes on, what is done? > > > > > > > > Lewis > > > >============================== > > > Thoughts " go on " -- and nothing is ever done, and so nothing > > > is going on, only the thoughts that think they do, when there > is no > > > thinking, nor doing, only the thoughts. > > > > > > So thinking with its questions and answers is an exercise in > futility > > > because there is no such thing as thinking only the thought > thinking. > > > > > > And compared to the Reality that is Everything all thoughts are > > > Nothing, zero. > > > > > > -- thoughts from Nothing > > > > > > The futility of questions and answers and thoughts thinking applies > to > > the futility of declarative statements as well. All require futile > > thinking or thought thinking, even questions and answers. It can be > > well assumed that " thinking " or thought thinking is a futile > exercise > > and insignificant in these matters. > > > > So it is agreed that: ... " compared to the Reality that is Everything > > all thoughts are Nothing, zero. " > > > > And so the question and statements below amount to the same and > > having no privilege over any other thought thought or spoken, they > are > > Nothing, zero. Are they unnecessarily stated? Are they to be heeded? > > > > " Give up all questions except one: 'Who am I?' " > > > > " When the answer adds up to Zero, nothing, then I am Everything. " > > > > For the Master and follower: Is the Master divided when he speaks > the > > " truth, " painting dualities in words from somewhere that point to an > > imagined nonduality, an reachable thought object (Zero)? And does > > that " truth " in words (above) structure a thought prison for the > > Master and the employer of the words? > > > > Or is it some other thought thinking? A futility? > > > > Lewis > >===================================== > > The answers to questions are so simple that you can not only answer > you're your questions but laugh at the same time. > > Pretend you are in a dream and then you ask these questions, in your > dream. > > In a dream you are the dreamer, the dreaming and everything in the > dream. > You ask the questions and so you want someone in your dream to answer > them. But in a dream you are that someone – so go ahead and answer > the questions as this someone. > > If you can understand how a dream works then for the first time in > your life you can understand how absurd it is to ask questions so > that you can then look for answers. > > It is so absurd that it is the Supreme Comedy called maya, life, > living. It is absurd because the answer can make no difference. The > answer can literally be anything because it can make no difference > because the mind is what it thinks it thinks when there is no > thinking. The mind is what it thinks it thinks regardless of its > questions and answers. > > All because in Reality nothing ever happens. And because nothing ever > happens the questions and their answers can make no difference. > Questions and answers are just a play of words that maya needs to be > entertaining, Joy -- just like these words that think they will add > up to Nothing, not even questions or answers. > > -- thoughts from nothing Dear Gene, I did not aske the question to get an answer to a question for me seeking. I did not seek your guidance. I did not ask the question for contention. I did not aks the question for an argument. I asked the question to hear your answer. That is all. Lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Lewis Burgess " <lbb10@c...> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...> > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " Lewis Burgess " <lbb10@c...> > > > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " > <semmin@e...> > > > wrote: > > > > > Give up all questions except one: 'Who am I?' > > > > > > > > > > When the answer adds up to Zero, nothing, then I am > Everything. > > > > > > > > > > -- the wisdom of thoughts > > > > > > > > > > > > How does the answer add up to Zero, nothing? > > > > > > > > What happens after the answer adds up to Zero, nothing, and I am > > > > Everything; when I am Everything what goes on, what is done? > > > > > > > > Lewis > > > >============================== > > > Thoughts " go on " -- and nothing is ever done, and so nothing > > > is going on, only the thoughts that think they do, when there > is no > > > thinking, nor doing, only the thoughts. > > > > > > So thinking with its questions and answers is an exercise in > futility > > > because there is no such thing as thinking only the thought > thinking. > > > > > > And compared to the Reality that is Everything all thoughts are > > > Nothing, zero. > > > > > > -- thoughts from Nothing > > > > > > The futility of questions and answers and thoughts thinking applies > to > > the futility of declarative statements as well. All require futile > > thinking or thought thinking, even questions and answers. It can be > > well assumed that " thinking " or thought thinking is a futile > exercise > > and insignificant in these matters. > > > > So it is agreed that: ... " compared to the Reality that is Everything > > all thoughts are Nothing, zero. " > > > > And so the question and statements below amount to the same and > > having no privilege over any other thought thought or spoken, they > are > > Nothing, zero. Are they unnecessarily stated? Are they to be heeded? > > > > " Give up all questions except one: 'Who am I?' " > > > > " When the answer adds up to Zero, nothing, then I am Everything. " > > > > For the Master and follower: Is the Master divided when he speaks > the > > " truth, " painting dualities in words from somewhere that point to an > > imagined nonduality, an reachable thought object (Zero)? And does > > that " truth " in words (above) structure a thought prison for the > > Master and the employer of the words? > > > > Or is it some other thought thinking? A futility? > > > > Lewis > >===================================== > > The answers to questions are so simple that you can not only answer > you're your questions but laugh at the same time. > > Pretend you are in a dream and then you ask these questions, in your > dream. > > In a dream you are the dreamer, the dreaming and everything in the > dream. > You ask the questions and so you want someone in your dream to answer > them. But in a dream you are that someone – so go ahead and answer > the questions as this someone. > > If you can understand how a dream works then for the first time in > your life you can understand how absurd it is to ask questions so > that you can then look for answers. > > It is so absurd that it is the Supreme Comedy called maya, life, > living. It is absurd because the answer can make no difference. The > answer can literally be anything because it can make no difference > because the mind is what it thinks it thinks when there is no > thinking. The mind is what it thinks it thinks regardless of its > questions and answers. > > All because in Reality nothing ever happens. And because nothing ever > happens the questions and their answers can make no difference. > Questions and answers are just a play of words that maya needs to be > entertaining, Joy -- just like these words that think they will add > up to Nothing, not even questions or answers. > > -- thoughts from nothing Hello Gene, there is an ego-mind dreaming.....and when this ego-mind wake up....it's still dreaming...... still dreaming in another kind of dream... when one day this ego-mind would wake up for Real.....then the identification with the ego-mind has an end.... when the identification with the ego-mind has an end....there is nobody any more who could " dream " like before... because there is no more this ego-mind existing you are right in saying that everything is a dream.... but Maya include also the identification with the ego mind..... and Maya has no more big influence with the end of the ego-mind let's wake up... Regards Peace and love Marc PS: as long there is ego-mind and so, Maya working....it's worth to have the answers....on the right questions.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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