Guest guest Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 >...This is hard to see for those who have met chaos only once, at birth. There is nobody who does NOT meet chaos. Because every moment is the moment of birth. Look around. P: Stefan, child, you have come back, as I knew you would. I'm glad for the return of Werner's another son. The prodigal one. Aaybe Werner will kill the fattened calf, and bring the cool flagons of wine from the cellar. But as usual you misunderstood, have no clue, but responded anyway. What can I say? stay, read more, one day it'll down on you. I'm certain of that. Hang on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 5/26/05 12:56:05 PM, pasierra@e... writes: > > A reinterprtation: > > > > > > > > > > > > [ ....] > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > undifferentiation > > > > > > > > colorsoundtouch > > > > > > > > lifechiselshammerscarves > > > > meaning. > > > > > > > > Hungerfoodcoldwarmthpainpleasure > > > > arise. > > > > > > > > pleasant - > > > > a smell, > > > > a smile, > > > > a face, > > > > world takes shape. > > > > > > > > Form is emptiness, emptiness is form. > > > > > > > > suffering - > > > > nebulous presence > > > > imagined, > > > > named, > > > > believed, > > > > desired, > > > > sought, > > > > held. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: Voila! Une poeme! Tres joli, merci. > > > > L: Gracias. El más dulce es ninguna cosa. :^) > > > > > > > > > > " Si yo no hubiera sido...que seria > > > > en mi lugar? Mas lirios o mas rosas? > > > > O chorros de agua o gris de serrania > > > > o serrania o muda roca. > > > > De algunas de esas cosas-la mas fria...- > > > > me viene el corazon que las desea. > > > Dulce Maria Loynas > > Translated by Pete > > If I were not... what would be > in my place? More lilies, or more roses? > Or spouts of water, or gray sierras, > or shreds of fog, or silent rocks. > > From one of those things- the coldest... > I get this heart which longs for them. Lewis' translation If I had not been ... what would be in my place? More irises or more roses? or water spouts or gray mountains or [mountains] or mute rock. Among these things, the coldest... To me comes a heart desiring them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: >P: Stefan, child, you have come back, as I knew you would. >I'm glad for the return of Werner's another son. The prodigal >one. Aaybe Werner will kill the fattened calf, and bring the >cool flagons of wine from the cellar. But as usual you misunderstood, >have no clue, but responded anyway. What can I say? stay, read more, >one day it'll down on you. I'm certain of that. Hang on! Thank you for your warm welcome, but I was never away. And you again missed another chance to learn a little from somebody who likes to walk different roads. Yes, I can see, Peteman is still the same! No problem. Only, I am sorry that you feel misunderstood. But the purpose of my suggestion was not to confirm/deny your thinking. Man, there are so many roads, one day - maybe - this will " down " (?) on you :-)) Deep down, so to say? Greetings, also to my father :-) Stefan P.S. thanks again, but you really dont need to send me another welcome each time I am posting something here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2005 Report Share Posted May 27, 2005 - Lewis Burgess Nisargadatta Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:14 PM Re: Presence Is All There Is Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 5/26/05 12:56:05 PM, pasierra@e... writes: > > A reinterprtation: > > > > > > > > > > > > [ ....] > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > undifferentiation > > > > > > > > colorsoundtouch > > > > > > > > lifechiselshammerscarves > > > > meaning. > > > > > > > > Hungerfoodcoldwarmthpainpleasure > > > > arise. > > > > > > > > pleasant - > > > > a smell, > > > > a smile, > > > > a face, > > > > world takes shape. > > > > > > > > Form is emptiness, emptiness is form. > > > > > > > > suffering - > > > > nebulous presence > > > > imagined, > > > > named, > > > > believed, > > > > desired, > > > > sought, > > > > held. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: Voila! Une poeme! Tres joli, merci. > > > > L: Gracias. El más dulce es ninguna cosa. :^) > > > > > > > > > > " Si yo no hubiera sido...que seria > > > > en mi lugar? Mas lirios o mas rosas? > > > > O chorros de agua o gris de serrania > > > > o serrania o muda roca. > > > > De algunas de esas cosas-la mas fria...- > > > > me viene el corazon que las desea. > > > Dulce Maria Loynas > > Translated by Pete > > If I were not... what would be > in my place? More lilies, or more roses? > Or spouts of water, or gray sierras, > or shreds of fog, or silent rocks. > > From one of those things- the coldest... > I get this heart which longs for them. Lewis' translation If I had not been ... what would be in my place? More irises or more roses? or water spouts or gray mountains or [mountains] or mute rock. Among these things, the coldest... To me comes a heart desiring them. Anna's version: 5/25/05 I am the river of my heart made colder still-- the lillies slice and bruise in granite-- the roses and irises heed not my cries-- I thirst. ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2005 Report Share Posted May 27, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > Lewis Burgess > Nisargadatta > Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:14 PM > Re: Presence Is All There Is > > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > > In a message dated 5/26/05 12:56:05 PM, pasierra@e... writes: > > > A reinterprtation: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ ....] > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > undifferentiation > > > > > > > > > > colorsoundtouch > > > > > > > > > > lifechiselshammerscarves > > > > > meaning. > > > > > > > > > > Hungerfoodcoldwarmthpainpleasure > > > > > arise. > > > > > > > > > > pleasant - > > > > > a smell, > > > > > a smile, > > > > > a face, > > > > > world takes shape. > > > > > > > > > > Form is emptiness, emptiness is form. > > > > > > > > > > suffering - > > > > > nebulous presence > > > > > imagined, > > > > > named, > > > > > believed, > > > > > desired, > > > > > sought, > > > > > held. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: Voila! Une poeme! Tres joli, merci. > > > > > > L: Gracias. El más dulce es ninguna cosa. :^) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Si yo no hubiera sido...que seria > > > > > > en mi lugar? Mas lirios o mas rosas? > > > > > > O chorros de agua o gris de serrania > > > > > > o serrania o muda roca. > > > > > > De algunas de esas cosas-la mas fria...- > > > > > > me viene el corazon que las desea. > > > > > Dulce Maria Loynas > > > > Translated by Pete > > > > If I were not... what would be > > in my place? More lilies, or more roses? > > Or spouts of water, or gray sierras, > > or shreds of fog, or silent rocks. > > > > From one of those things- the coldest... > > I get this heart which longs for them. > > > Lewis' translation > > If I had not been ... what would be in my place? > > More irises or more roses? > > or water spouts or gray mountains > > or [mountains] or mute rock. > > Among these things, the coldest... > > To me comes a heart desiring them. > > > > > Anna's version: 5/25/05 > > I am the river of my heart > made colder still-- > the lillies > slice and bruise in granite-- > > the roses and > irises heed not my cries-- > > I thirst. Comment 5/27/05 Cipher bliing ciphers nona ta du Cipher nikking eman oo a ta ru. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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