Nothing to understand and no one to understand that there's nothing to under

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Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz>

> wrote:

> <<>

>

> Fuzz: There is nothing to understand. That's why I am misunderstood.>>

>

>

>

> G: Seekers who have invested a lot of years and a lot of sadhana

> pursuing the elusive butterfly of enlightenment don't like being told

> that all that " intense " activity was only for the purpose of keeping

> them busy with something to do while they ripened enough to get that

> you can't attain enlightenment via meditation, grovelling at the feet

> of the guru, etc. etc. any more than you can make a mirror by

> furiously rubbing a slab of granite (Mat-su).

>

> You're totally, absolutely, completely right on. There is nothing to

> understand. This is it. HereNow. It is as it is. Voila'. This is

> all there is, folks, so get used to it, hahaha.

>

> As for Brother Mango, I think he's just having some fun. Gotta love

> the self-proclaimed Paramahamsa. Truly a seeker after my own heart.>>

>

>

> <<Fuzz:

> >> Sarlo's list has too many religious Hindu fundamentalists on

> there.>>

>

> G: As Jesus said, we will always have the poor and the

> fundamentalists among us. What can they do except cling desperately

> to their fossilized doctrines and rituals? What else to they have,

> after all?.

> God forbid, someone should come along and rattle their cages and

> shake their world-view!!

>

> " Crucify him!!! " will forever be their battle cry.

>

> Just like the good Mormon elders and the no-so-good Jehovah's

> Witnesses that knock occasionally at my front door, the

> fundamentalists don't want to engage in dialogue (intelligent

> dialogue = the tool of Satan used to deceive the " elect " ) any more

> than the Man in the Moon.

>

> All they want is to get agreement that they have found the One True

> Way.

>

>

>

>

> <<Fuzz: Bankei's " Unborn " teaching is awesome. I am living and

> breathing it. I

> > just don't use the same terminology. Bankei teaches in that book

> that

> > the belief in the ego is the primary cause of mankind's problems

> (cf.

> > pp. 38, 49, and 58 of the 1984 edition, North Point Press). His

> > teaching, which is Buddhism in its purest form (cf. " anatman "

> > [no-self]), is analogous to the teaching of the Bhagavad Gita and

> the

> > Advaita Vedantists (i.e. " no doer " ). Friedrich W. Nietzsche and

> > Charles Peirce, both, also said that the ego was purely a linguistic

> > fiction. So, this is not a new revelation, by no means. It's just

> the

> > way it is. There is no individual self. When this is seen, questions

> > and doubts are resolved. " All things are perfectly resolved in the

> > Unborn... " >>

>

> G: " The Unborn: The Life and Teachings of Zen Master Bankei (1622-

> 1693) "

> translated by Norman Waddell was revised in 2000. All that's

> different from the 1984 edition is the addition of a new section of

> previously untranslated talks.

>

> It doesn't matter what language you use. The truth of your in-seeing

> shines through like " bright virtue " itself, the same " bright virtue "

> that triggered Bankei's quest to clarify, for HIMSELF, the meaning of

> that Confusian term.

>

> When all is said and done, " all things are perfectly resolved in the

> Unborn " is still the whole ball of wax.

>

> U to U

 

 

Yeah, Gary. I've got nothing to give 'em. I'm not anymore real than

they are. We're all just apparitions in the dreamscape of present

awareness; ghost-images flickering in the light; (cyber-bozos on a

virtual magic bus). It's quite amazing, actually.

 

fuzzie