Guest guest Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 I think, The society has a great need to keep 'me' alive ... My, this body's, this entity's, this being's ONLY usage, importance, significance for the society is a 'me' that can be controlled, manipulated, conditioned, ...used and predicted. Current social structure is formed by 'me's ... is controlled by 'me's ... is sustained by 'me's ... Only entity that can really fit is ....'me' Only entity that can care to fit is ....'me' The manager needs a 'worker' ( notice 'er' of doer ) that can be controlled, manipulated and predicted by carrot ( greed ) or stick ( fear ) ... The daughter needs a 'father' ... The wife needs a 'husband' that can be trusted ( predicted ), controlled ( will take care of 'assigned' duties ) ... The current society tries to strengthen, enforce, instill this sense of 'me' anywhere it can ... Anytime it can ... Most times, it does succeed ... Some times, it even comes to the very question of physical survival . The society will do everything possible to ...keep me as 'me' ... To keep 'me' in my place ... The daughter needs it ... The wife needs it ... The boss needs it ... The worker needs it ... ....and, it needs it all the time ! Every moment, every second, every time .... It will 'like' 'me' to think ... 'me' to think, ... " who am I ? " ....and, it also provides 'me' the readymade answers ...I am father, husband, engineer, worker ... Even when all else fails, it will still try to give 'me' an answer ...the 'realizer' ... Even when, nothing really works, it will see if it can make me at least ... a 'teacher' Anything to keep 'me' in 'my' place ... Because, the society needs 'me' ...not ....Me Society is a control structure ... It needs something that it can control, predict, manipulate, ... " feed and use " Without 'me', I AM is of its No use ... ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Nisargadatta , Adithya K <adithya_comming> wrote: > > I think, > > > > The society has a great need to keep > > 'me' alive ... > > > > My, this body's, this entity's, this > > being's ONLY usage, importance, > > significance for the society is a 'me' > > that can be controlled, manipulated, > > conditioned, ...used and predicted. > > > > > > Current social structure is formed by > > 'me's ... > > > > is controlled by 'me's ... > > > > is sustained by 'me's ... > > > > > > Only entity that can really fit is > > ...'me' > > > > Only entity that can care to fit is > > ...'me' > > > > > > The manager needs a 'worker' ( notice > > 'er' of doer ) that can be controlled, > > manipulated and predicted by carrot ( > > greed ) or stick ( fear ) ... > > > > The daughter needs a 'father' ... > > > > The wife needs a 'husband' that can be > > trusted ( predicted ), controlled ( > > will take care of 'assigned' duties ) ... > > > > > > The current society tries to > > strengthen, enforce, instill this sense > > of 'me' anywhere it can ... > > > > Anytime it can ... > > > > > > Most times, it does succeed ... > > > > Some times, it even comes to the very > > question of physical survival . > > > > > > The society will do everything > > possible to ...keep me as 'me' ... > > > > To keep 'me' in my place ... > > > > > > The daughter needs it ... > > The wife needs it ... > > The boss needs it ... > > The worker needs it ... > > > > ...and, it needs it all the time ! > > > > > > Every moment, > > every second, > > every time .... > > > > It will 'like' 'me' to think ... > > > > 'me' to think, ... " who am I ? " > > > > ...and, it also provides 'me' the > > readymade answers ...I am father, > > husband, engineer, worker ... > > > > Even when all else fails, it will > > still try to give 'me' an answer ...the > > 'realizer' ... > > > > Even when, nothing really works, it > > will see if it can make me at least ... > > a 'teacher' > Anything to keep 'me' in 'my' place ... > > > > Because, the society needs 'me' ...not > > ...Me > > > > Society is a control structure ... > > > > It needs something that it can > > control, predict, manipulate, ... " feed > > and use " > > > > > > Without 'me', I AM is of its No > > use ... > Anytime I AM seen to break away from `me' the society will make every possible effort to keep `me' in place ... including if necessary, even inventing, using new tags, new ids, new cells to get `me' ...the realizer, the non-doer, the `finder', the achiever, the teacher ... Breaking free of `me' is not just mental, ....it is very social ... Breaking away from `me' .... will incur many unknown Social prices. .. .... ...... It is therefore No big surprise that how many like Ramana, Tolle essentially became an outcast. Until it found a new 'usage' for them ... Therefore, it is also No Big surprise that in spite of so many teachings and teachers, so many traditions, texts, so many recitals ... Most of `social' human is stuck in egoic mode of Consciousness ... In spite of great mental pain and suffering ... Many time, it is simply a question of ... ridding of mental suffering --- vs --- Physical survival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 ..... Many time, it is simply a question of ... ridding of mental suffering --- vs --- Physical survival. .. .... ...... It is therefore, also No Great surprise, that in many cases, the advent of awakening from the dream of form, the breaking away from the prison of `me' ... has followed the excess of mental pain resulting in desire of physical annihilation, though of death where, the physical survival was NOT important anymore ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Nisargadatta , Adithya K <adithya_comming> wrote: > > I think, > > > > The society has a great need to keep > > 'me' alive ... > > > > My, this body's, this entity's, this > > being's ONLY usage, importance, > > significance for the society is a 'me' > > that can be controlled, manipulated, > > conditioned, ...used and predicted. > > > > > > Current social structure is formed by > > 'me's ... > > > > is controlled by 'me's ... > > > > is sustained by 'me's ... > > > > > > Only entity that can really fit is > > ...'me' > > > > Only entity that can care to fit is > > ...'me' > > > > > > The manager needs a 'worker' ( notice > > 'er' of doer ) that can be controlled, > > manipulated and predicted by carrot ( > > greed ) or stick ( fear ) ... > > > > The daughter needs a 'father' ... > > > > The wife needs a 'husband' that can be > > trusted ( predicted ), controlled ( > > will take care of 'assigned' duties ) ... > > > > > > The current society tries to > > strengthen, enforce, instill this sense > > of 'me' anywhere it can ... > > > > Anytime it can ... > > > > > > Most times, it does succeed ... > > > > Some times, it even comes to the very > > question of physical survival . > > > > > > The society will do everything > > possible to ...keep me as 'me' ... > > > > To keep 'me' in my place ... > > > > > > The daughter needs it ... > > The wife needs it ... > > The boss needs it ... > > The worker needs it ... > > > > ...and, it needs it all the time ! > > > > > > Every moment, > > every second, > > every time .... > > > > It will 'like' 'me' to think ... > > > > 'me' to think, ... " who am I ? " > > > > ...and, it also provides 'me' the > > readymade answers ...I am father, > > husband, engineer, worker ... > > > > Even when all else fails, it will > > still try to give 'me' an answer ...the > > 'realizer' ... > > > > Even when, nothing really works, it > > will see if it can make me at least ... > > a 'teacher' > Anything to keep 'me' in 'my' place ... > > > > Because, the society needs 'me' ...not > > ...Me > > > > Society is a control structure ... > > > > It needs something that it can > > control, predict, manipulate, ... " feed > > and use " > > > > > > Without 'me', I AM is of its No > > use ... Hey, Adithya! You're really hung up on yourself, aren't ya? fuzzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > Nisargadatta , Adithya K <adithya_comming> > wrote: > > > > I think, > > > > > > > > The society has a great need to keep > > > > 'me' alive ... > > > > > > > > My, this body's, this entity's, this > > > > being's ONLY usage, importance, > > > > significance for the society is a 'me' > > > > that can be controlled, manipulated, > > > > conditioned, ...used and predicted. > > > > > > > > > > > > Current social structure is formed by > > > > 'me's ... > > > > > > > > is controlled by 'me's ... > > > > > > > > is sustained by 'me's ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Only entity that can really fit is > > > > ...'me' > > > > > > > > Only entity that can care to fit is > > > > ...'me' > > > > > > > > > > > > The manager needs a 'worker' ( notice > > > > 'er' of doer ) that can be controlled, > > > > manipulated and predicted by carrot ( > > > > greed ) or stick ( fear ) ... > > > > > > > > The daughter needs a 'father' ... > > > > > > > > The wife needs a 'husband' that can be > > > > trusted ( predicted ), controlled ( > > > > will take care of 'assigned' duties ) ... > > > > > > > > > > > > The current society tries to > > > > strengthen, enforce, instill this sense > > > > of 'me' anywhere it can ... > > > > > > > > Anytime it can ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Most times, it does succeed ... > > > > > > > > Some times, it even comes to the very > > > > question of physical survival . > > > > > > > > > > > > The society will do everything > > > > possible to ...keep me as 'me' ... > > > > > > > > To keep 'me' in my place ... > > > > > > > > > > > > The daughter needs it ... > > > > The wife needs it ... > > > > The boss needs it ... > > > > The worker needs it ... > > > > > > > > ...and, it needs it all the time ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Every moment, > > > > every second, > > > > every time .... > > > > > > > > It will 'like' 'me' to think ... > > > > > > > > 'me' to think, ... " who am I ? " > > > > > > > > ...and, it also provides 'me' the > > > > readymade answers ...I am father, > > > > husband, engineer, worker ... > > > > > > > > Even when all else fails, it will > > > > still try to give 'me' an answer ...the > > > > 'realizer' ... > > > > > > > > Even when, nothing really works, it > > > > will see if it can make me at least ... > > > > a 'teacher' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anything to keep 'me' in 'my' place ... > > > > > > > > Because, the society needs 'me' ...not > > > > ...Me > > > > > > > > Society is a control structure ... > > > > > > > > It needs something that it can > > > > control, predict, manipulate, ... " feed > > > > and use " > > > > > > > > > > > > Without 'me', I AM is of its No > > > > use ... > > > Hey, Adithya! > > You're really hung up on yourself, aren't ya? Yes, Perhaps, not free " like you " , Fuzzie! is " THAT " the message, you intended to convey ...? or, are simply bored and had to say something ... or, do you just want to talk, Fuzzie ? reagrds, ac. > > > > fuzzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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