Guest guest Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 >>> Fear is also the main factor that keeps mind continuously churning, speculating, anticipating, ...preparing and even rehearsing ... >>> As long as you are 'in system', <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< .....and, what is the meaning of being 'in the system' . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>you will face direct and indirect 'threats' in many forms again and again ... >>>How do you 'handle' and 'respond' to these threats without any 'internal' fear ... >>>and, without any of its results such as anger, frustration, worry, anxiety, pain, tension, unease ... .. .... ...... As sages like Ramana said: " Meditation is your real nature. " They also said: " Thoughts are Only obstruction to the inherent peace and joy. " They also said: " Witnessing is your nature, and, the work automatically happens in your presence. " and, " Thoughts give rise to the body, which is the sheet of all diseases and pain. " Sitting on a couch, a rocking chair, a bus ... You can easily mediate. Walking, running, making love ... You can easily meditate ... Even gardening, carrying water, doing laundry, or many other physical activities ... You can mediate. How do you mediate ... when you are 'attacked' by someone with purpose to harm, damage or finish you ... .....and, you are required to either present a 'defense' or get killed ( ....meaning relinquish, lose that for which the fight is ) How do you mediate ... When, you get 'attacked' by your competitors, opposition, enemies and you are required to present your 'defense' if you are going to survive. How do you mediate ... When, you are 'required' to strategize and plan for such defense and attack. How do you mediates, ...when doing this strategize and planning. Poetry, art, insight, new idea ... can easily come to you, it can arrive, ....and, you can be in meditation, witnessing, or, you can just be almost an 'empty' channel. But, how do you mediate ... When, trying to 'evaluate' many options ... When trying to 'choose', 'select', 'judge', ...when, trying to 'anticipate', guess, strategize and plan the future or 'review' and learn from the past ? How do you mediate ... when deciding .... " where to buy a house or not " , what stocks to buys or sell, which company to join, which career to choose, which school to send your kid to, where to settle, where to invest, ...or, " how to pay your debt " , ..... " how to save on taxes " ... Or, how do you mediate ... " when, you file your taxes, especially when looking for and taking advantage of the loop holes " ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 How do you mediate .... when planning how to gain more 'money' ( or power ) or how to 'protect' what you have either through 'investing', " looking for opportunity " , " taking advantage of opportunity or situation " , " making sure that those in power are happy " , or ...by, 'cheating', 'grouching', 'fooling' others ? [ NNB ] Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming> wrote: > >>> Fear is also the main factor that keeps > mind continuously churning, speculating, > anticipating, ...preparing and even > rehearsing ... > > > >>> As long as you are 'in system', > > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > ....and, what is the meaning of > > being 'in the system' . > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>you will face direct and indirect > 'threats' in many forms again and > again ... > > > >>>How do you 'handle' and 'respond' to > these threats without any 'internal' > fear ... > > >>>and, without any of its results such > as anger, frustration, worry, anxiety, > pain, tension, unease ... > > . > ... > ..... > > As sages like Ramana said: > > " Meditation is your real nature. " > > > They also said: > > " Thoughts are Only obstruction to the > inherent peace and joy. " > > > They also said: > > " Witnessing is your nature, and, the > work automatically happens in your > presence. " > > > and, > > " Thoughts give rise to the body, which > is the sheet of all diseases and pain. " > > > Sitting on a couch, a rocking chair, a > bus ... > > You can easily mediate. > > > Walking, running, making love ... > > You can easily meditate ... > > > Even gardening, carrying water, doing > laundry, or many other physical > activities ... > > You can mediate. > > > > How do you mediate ... > > when you are 'attacked' by someone > with purpose to harm, damage or finish > you ... > > ....and, you are required to either > present a 'defense' or get killed ( > ...meaning relinquish, lose that for > which the fight is ) > > > How do you mediate ... > > When, you get 'attacked' by your > competitors, opposition, enemies and > you are required to present your > 'defense' if you are going to survive. > > > How do you mediate ... > > When, you are 'required' to strategize > and plan for such defense and attack. > How do you mediates, ...when doing > this strategize and planning. > > > Poetry, art, insight, new idea ... > can easily come to you, it can arrive, > ...and, you can be in meditation, > witnessing, or, you can just be almost > an 'empty' channel. > > > > But, how do you mediate ... > When, trying to 'evaluate' many > options ... > > When trying to 'choose', 'select', > 'judge', ...when, trying to > 'anticipate', guess, strategize and > plan the future or 'review' and learn > from the past ? > > > How do you mediate ... > when deciding .... " where to buy a > house or not " , what stocks to buys or > sell, which company to join, which > career to choose, which school to send > your kid to, where to settle, where to > invest, ...or, " how to pay your debt " , > .... " how to save on taxes " ... > > > Or, how do you mediate ... > > " when, you file your taxes, especially > when looking for and taking advantage > of the loop holes " ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming> wrote: > How do you mediate .... > > when planning how to gain more 'money' > ( or power ) or how to 'protect' what > you have either through 'investing', > > " looking for opportunity " , " taking > advantage of opportunity or situation " , > " making sure that those in power are > happy " , > > or ...by, 'cheating', > 'grouching', 'fooling' others ? > > ** Those aren't real questions, they're false. You {the assumption(s)} are the question. Your question...the question for you...as you are. Ken > > [ NNB ] > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming> wrote: > > >>> Fear is also the main factor that keeps > > mind continuously churning, speculating, > > anticipating, ...preparing and even > > rehearsing ... > > > > > > >>> As long as you are 'in system', > > > > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > ....and, what is the meaning of > > > > being 'in the system' . > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>you will face direct and indirect > > 'threats' in many forms again and > > again ... > > > > > > >>>How do you 'handle' and 'respond' to > > these threats without any 'internal' > > fear ... > > > > >>>and, without any of its results such > > as anger, frustration, worry, anxiety, > > pain, tension, unease ... > > > > . > > ... > > ..... > > > > As sages like Ramana said: > > > > " Meditation is your real nature. " > > > > > > They also said: > > > > " Thoughts are Only obstruction to the > > inherent peace and joy. " > > > > > > They also said: > > > > " Witnessing is your nature, and, the > > work automatically happens in your > > presence. " > > > > > > and, > > > > " Thoughts give rise to the body, which > > is the sheet of all diseases and pain. " > > > > > > Sitting on a couch, a rocking chair, a > > bus ... > > > > You can easily mediate. > > > > > > Walking, running, making love ... > > > > You can easily meditate ... > > > > > > Even gardening, carrying water, doing > > laundry, or many other physical > > activities ... > > > > You can mediate. > > > > > > > > How do you mediate ... > > > > when you are 'attacked' by someone > > with purpose to harm, damage or finish > > you ... > > > > ....and, you are required to either > > present a 'defense' or get killed ( > > ...meaning relinquish, lose that for > > which the fight is ) > > > > > > How do you mediate ... > > > > When, you get 'attacked' by your > > competitors, opposition, enemies and > > you are required to present your > > 'defense' if you are going to survive. > > > > > > How do you mediate ... > > > > When, you are 'required' to strategize > > and plan for such defense and attack. > > How do you mediates, ...when doing > > this strategize and planning. > > > > > > Poetry, art, insight, new idea ... > > can easily come to you, it can arrive, > > ...and, you can be in meditation, > > witnessing, or, you can just be almost > > an 'empty' channel. > > > > > > > > But, how do you mediate ... > > When, trying to 'evaluate' many > > options ... > > > > When trying to 'choose', 'select', > > 'judge', ...when, trying to > > 'anticipate', guess, strategize and > > plan the future or 'review' and learn > > from the past ? > > > > > > How do you mediate ... > > when deciding .... " where to buy a > > house or not " , what stocks to buys or > > sell, which company to join, which > > career to choose, which school to send > > your kid to, where to settle, where to > > invest, ...or, " how to pay your debt " , > > .... " how to save on taxes " ... > > > > > > Or, how do you mediate ... > > > > " when, you file your taxes, especially > > when looking for and taking advantage > > of the loop holes " ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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