Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Ganto, a disciple of Tokusan, would probably be unknown today, if it were not by the manner of his death. He left behind no great sutra, or anecdote as Eno, Nansen, and Joshu did. Ganto left us little more than his scream. Zen master's deaths are generally reported as dignify, sometimes, predicted and even often, orchestrated affairs. It's common for a master to leave behind a death poem. So, Ganto's death seems to stand out as the exception of the rule. Ganto was murdered by robbers while returning to his monastery. It's reported that, while being stabbed, he screamed so loud his screams were heard a mile away. Not a great show of equanimity! Surely, he would have given his meager possessions without resistance, why kill him? Was Ganto enlightened? why, then, didn't the robbers see his enlightenment? Why didn't Pilate recognize Christ divinity? Why was Ganto murdered? He died over 1100 years ago, and his screams still echo. Maybe that's why. Pete Indeed! Murder is screaming and echoing in your unhearing ears and loveless hearts. Look Within and see Who is Missing? Copyright anna ruiz june 2005 Pete, may we once again collaborate with your story and my poem? anna P: Sure, use it if you want. Notice, I corrected the typo in the last line. It should be " echo " not echoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 - Pedsie2 nisargadatta Monday, June 06, 2005 2:35 PM Screaming Ganto Ganto, a disciple of Tokusan, would probably be unknown today, if it were not by the manner of his death. He left behind no great sutra, or anecdote as Eno, Nansen, and Joshu did. Ganto left us little more than his scream. Zen master's deaths are generally reported as dignify, sometimes, predicted and even often, orchestrated affairs. It's common for a master to leave behind a death poem. So, Ganto's death seems to stand out as the exception of the rule. Ganto was murdered by robbers while returning to his monastery. It's reported that, while being stabbed, he screamed so loud his screams were heard a mile away. Not a great show of equanimity! Surely, he would have given his meager possessions without resistance, why kill him? Was Ganto enlightened? why, then, didn't the robbers see his enlightenment? Why didn't Pilate recognize Christ divinity? Why was Ganto murdered? He died over 1100 years ago, and his screams still echo. Maybe that's why. Pete Indeed! Murder is screaming and echoing in your unhearing ears and loveless hearts. Look Within and see Who is Missing? Copyright anna ruiz june 2005 Pete, may we once again collaborate with your story and my poem? anna P: Sure, use it if you want. Notice, I corrected the typo in the last line. It should be " echo " not echoes. LOL pete ; -) ; -) ; -) and thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: >...why kill him? >Was Ganto enlightened? why, then, didn't the >robbers see his enlightenment? Why didn't >Pilate recognize Christ divinity? Why was Ganto >murdered? He died over 1100 years ago, and his >screams still echo. Maybe that's why. What a story! Dear Pete, like always I am missing the point :-) But this is not meant as an offence. It is my adolescent nature that always misses the obvious and looks for the obscure instead. Enlightenement... is the most ordinary no-state. It means to be as you are without making concepts about what you are. How could this be recognized? Maybe by someone who has gone through exactly the same hoobatooba. But who cares. For shure, if I were a real professional robber, enlightened or not, I would not care. But the screaming: blessed be the screamer who is not only heard one mile away but even still today. Such are the screams of the masters to wake up everybody, in the middle of the night. Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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