Guest guest Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Here is some interaction on the spiritual humanism site that you all may find quite revealing.Enjoy,Doug........... Dear Marifa, You said; >>In my understanding, and in my pre-enlightenment view, any kind of enlightenment has to be integrated in everyday life, that is the realisation of one's real nature has to penetrate each nuke and corner of the old personality, and that requires long and hard work and doesn't happen instantaneously.>> (M) Exactly. And for this to happen naturally and without force, the psychophysical vehicle has to be prepared thoroughly beforehand otherwise the whole thing will be pulled back by the force of habit of emotional, psychological and mental reactivities, as well as mental conditioning. This is why people who have 'enlightenment experiences' and then believe themselves to be fully realized so often still show many of the same unresolved issues the rest of us suffer from. They have not been sensitized sufficiently to the fact that no aspect of the psychophysical being can be by-passed permanently. Da Free John correctly said: 'That which is not transcended will control you'. Nowadays we hear every other new born Advaitist to stand in the full light of undivided consciousness. Wow! Soon the world will run out of ordinary guys like you and me to become enlightened! Fortunately these pseudo enlightenments with no love, no charity, no kindness, no heart, only clever ultimate statements about things, have yet a long way to travel. In fact often a longer way than you and me, because they first have to go back a few steps down the ladder of delusion. And this is not easy. So they remain stuck in some hell of mere presumption, declaring their state 'oneness with consciousness'. Strange, would you not say, how easily we can delude ourselves even about matters of such vital importance as freedom and humane living. May I also say that there is no such thing as a one- off 'enlightenment'. This is part of the great delusion. The whole thing is based on the notion that because mind cannot become enlightened, and enlightenment is not of mind, a radical and clear shift between delusion and that which is not of the nature of delusion, needs to occur for the other to be. This makes a perfect argument. But I said to Maria, it does not work that way. Human life is not an either or affair. We can be and are both good and bad and these may show themselves under different circumstances. The totality of our human potential is always available to every moment of human living. There is no such thing that any state has to wait for some grand final shift before aspects of itself could begin to reveal itself. As our self-enquiry deepens and allows for greater clarity, any aspect of ourselves can show itself at any moment. So, if we create the right conditions for our deepest non-dual nature to reveal itself in any moment, it cannot but do it. And the path is just about creating the right circumstance for our natural condition to become our living reality. No doubt, a gradual appearance of our humane qualities of love, compassion, honesty, non- divisiveness, charity and intelligence will begin to become evident. It is not an either or affair. Human life does not work like that. We need to become realists, not idealists. And unless proper prior work is done to free the psychophysical being from its habits of inner confusion, no sustainable 'enlightenment' could happen. And yes, unless the free, completely open and natural state can sustain itself, and not be dragged back into the habits of illusion, our enlightenment could still be regarded as suspect and not yet ripened into maintaining its disposion of equanimity, charity, love, intelligence and compassion. Freedom from bondage is only true when it is self-sustainable. In fact the whole thing has to do with integration. No genuine enquiry into our human condition is not evidenced by a process of gradual integration of, and the infiltration of , our deeper nature into the functional living reality of our lives. This is how it works, simply because this is how we are. Our being is capable of such inter-action between bondage and freedom. At the uninspected level of being only folly is evident. When we begin to awaken to our deeper nature, the two manifest intermittently. When our work is complete, there is only freedom, lightness of BE-ing and the wholeness of life. Hand in hand, Moller. www.spiritualhumanism.co.za Author of: Spirituality Without God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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