Guest guest Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 .. .... ...... All 'relationships' are Pain ... All relationships are 'built' on PAST ... All relationships aim to extend into Future ... All relationships are based on TIME ! All 'relationships' ... 'demand', 'require', 'need', expect, desire, want ... All 'relationships' are conflict, split, division ...a Pain ... To be 'in relationship' is to 'expect', 'demand', ...'anticipate' ... All expectations lead to pain ... NOW and ...Then ! To be without a relationship INTERNALLY is to be Free of pull, push and ...SPLIT ! There is NO 'happy' Relationship ... 'Relationship' is the Pain ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming> wrote: > . > ... > ..... > > All 'relationships' are Pain ... > > All relationships are 'built' on PAST ... > > All relationships aim to extend into > Future ... > > All relationships are based on TIME ! > > > All 'relationships' ... 'demand', > 'require', 'need', expect, desire, want ... > > All 'relationships' are conflict, > split, division ...a Pain ... > > > To be 'in relationship' is to 'expect', > 'demand', ...'anticipate' ... > > All expectations lead to pain > ... NOW and ...Then ! > > > To be without a relationship > INTERNALLY is > to be Free of pull, push and ...SPLIT ! > > > There is NO 'happy' Relationship ... > > 'Relationship' is the Pain ! At least, this is what people unable to have a meaningful relationship believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 - lissbon2002 Nisargadatta Monday, June 20, 2005 7:29 PM Re: All 'relationships' are Pain ...! Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming> wrote: > . > ... > ..... > > All 'relationships' are Pain ... > > All relationships are 'built' on PAST ... > > All relationships aim to extend into > Future ... > > All relationships are based on TIME ! > > > All 'relationships' ... 'demand', > 'require', 'need', expect, desire, want ... > > All 'relationships' are conflict, > split, division ...a Pain ... > > > To be 'in relationship' is to 'expect', > 'demand', ...'anticipate' ... > > All expectations lead to pain > ... NOW and ...Then ! > > > To be without a relationship > INTERNALLY is > to be Free of pull, push and ...SPLIT ! > > > There is NO 'happy' Relationship ... > > 'Relationship' is the Pain ! At least, this is what people unable to have a meaningful relationship believe. Oops, pardon for my intrusion, but i must bring this to a conclusion. The LIE is in the beLIEf. meaningful realtionship starts with a relating to noOne, all other relationships are resolved in the unborn, unknown, Buddha mind, of NoOne. love Anna ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming> wrote: > > . > > ... > > ..... > > > > All 'relationships' are Pain ... > > > > All relationships are 'built' on PAST ... > > > > All relationships aim to extend into > > Future ... > > > > All relationships are based on TIME ! > > > > > > All 'relationships' ... 'demand', > > 'require', 'need', expect, desire, want ... > > > > All 'relationships' are conflict, > > split, division ...a Pain ... > > > > > > To be 'in relationship' is to 'expect', > > 'demand', ...'anticipate' ... > > > > All expectations lead to pain > > ... NOW and ...Then ! > > > > > > To be without a relationship > > INTERNALLY is > > to be Free of pull, push and ...SPLIT ! > > > > > > There is NO 'happy' Relationship ... > > > > 'Relationship' is the Pain ! > > > > At least, this is what people unable to have a meaningful > relationship believe. Looking for 'meaning' is the Pain ... Trying to be 'meaningful' is the Pain ! Insisting that there must be a 'meaning' is the Pain ! All 'meanings' are 'binding' ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > > <adithya_comming> wrote: > > > . > > > ... > > > ..... > > > > > > All 'relationships' are Pain ... > > > > > > All relationships are 'built' on PAST ... > > > > > > All relationships aim to extend into > > > Future ... > > > > > > All relationships are based on TIME ! > > > > > > > > > All 'relationships' ... 'demand', > > > 'require', 'need', expect, desire, want ... > > > > > > All 'relationships' are conflict, > > > split, division ...a Pain ... > > > > > > > > > To be 'in relationship' is to 'expect', > > > 'demand', ...'anticipate' ... > > > > > > All expectations lead to pain > > > ... NOW and ...Then ! > > > > > > > > > To be without a relationship > > > INTERNALLY is > > > to be Free of pull, push and ...SPLIT ! > > > > > > > > > There is NO 'happy' Relationship ... > > > > > > 'Relationship' is the Pain ! > > > > > > > > At least, this is what people unable to have a meaningful > > relationship believe. > > Looking for 'meaning' is the Pain ... > > Trying to be 'meaningful' is the Pain ! > > > Insisting that there must be a > 'meaning' is the Pain ! > > All 'meanings' are 'binding' ... `Relating' might happen ... When you get close to ocean, you might feel wet ... When you get close to a rose, I might feel fragrant ... You might water a rose plant, might remove its weeds ... you might even sit very close to it ... Might get more fragrance, or be pricked by thorns or stung by bees ... Rose might keep shinning, blooming, ...smelling nice You might `like' the rose ... Yet, the `mindless' rose is not `in relationship' with you It doesn't `expect' anything from you ... It doesn't `demand' anything from you ... Neither, it cares about what you `expect', `demand' or `desire' of it ... It smells ... It blooms ... It is `itself' ... A `Ramana', a `Buddha' might be Peace ... might be LOVE ... getting close you might feel that peace ... ....that love ...that nothingness, that `no demand' ... Yet, a `Ramana' is NOT `in relationship' with you ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " > <lissbon2002> > > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > > > <adithya_comming> wrote: > > > > . > > > > ... > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > All 'relationships' are Pain ... > > > > > > > > All relationships are 'built' on PAST ... > > > > > > > > All relationships aim to extend into > > > > Future ... > > > > > > > > All relationships are based on TIME ! > > > > > > > > > > > > All 'relationships' ... 'demand', > > > > 'require', 'need', expect, desire, want ... > > > > > > > > All 'relationships' are conflict, > > > > split, division ...a Pain ... > > > > > > > > > > > > To be 'in relationship' is to 'expect', > > > > 'demand', ...'anticipate' ... > > > > > > > > All expectations lead to pain > > > > ... NOW and ...Then ! > > > > > > > > > > > > To be without a relationship > > > > INTERNALLY is > > > > to be Free of pull, push and ...SPLIT ! > > > > > > > > > > > > There is NO 'happy' Relationship ... > > > > > > > > 'Relationship' is the Pain ! > > > > > > > > > > > > At least, this is what people unable to have a meaningful > > > relationship believe. > > > > Looking for 'meaning' is the Pain ... > > > > Trying to be 'meaningful' is the Pain ! > > > > > > Insisting that there must be a > > 'meaning' is the Pain ! > > > > All 'meanings' are 'binding' ... > > `Relating' might happen ... > > When you get close to ocean, you might feel wet ... > > When you get close to a rose, I might feel fragrant ... > > You might water a rose plant, > might remove its weeds ... > you might even sit very close to it ... > > Might get more fragrance, > or be pricked by thorns or stung by bees ... > > > Rose might keep shinning, blooming, ...smelling nice > You might `like' the rose ... > > > Yet, the `mindless' rose is not `in relationship' with you > > It doesn't `expect' anything from you ... > It doesn't `demand' anything from you ... > > Neither, it cares about what you `expect', `demand' or `desire' of > it ... > > > It smells ... > It blooms ... > > It is `itself' ... > > > A `Ramana', a `Buddha' might be Peace ... > might be LOVE ... > > getting close you might feel that peace ... > ...that love ...that nothingness, that `no demand' ... > > > Yet, a `Ramana' is NOT `in relationship' with you ... .. .... ...... `relating' happens in the Moment ... `Relationship' takes place in Time ... Relating is the function of the Moment ... Relationship is the " work " of the Time ! Relating is a happening, an activity ... `relationship' is a `concept' ...a Phantom Entity ! You can act ... but, relationship survives on expecting ... Relating might drop without leaving a trace, ....but, every relationship `lives' in Head ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 ..... > > > > A `Ramana', a `Buddha' might be Peace ... > > might be LOVE ... > > > > getting close you might feel that peace ... > > ...that love ...that nothingness, that `no demand' ... > > > > > > Yet, a `Ramana' is NOT `in relationship' with you ... > > . > ... > ..... > > `relating' happens in the Moment ... > > `Relationship' takes place in Time ... > > > Relating is the function of the Moment ... > Relationship is the " work " of the Time ! > > Relating is a happening, an activity ... > `relationship' is a `concept' ...a Phantom Entity ! > > > > Relating might drop without leaving a trace, > ...but, every relationship `lives' in Head ! Relating happens in nature ... Two waves of the ocean come together ... A bee visits a flower ... A man hears a bird song ... A man takes dip in the river, smells the flower, ...eats the fruit ... But, `relationship' is `Mental' ! It is a `concept' that attempts to `live' in Time ... It lives like a Phantom Entity and it survives because of time. It needs " thinking " .... .. .... ...... Being yourself is following your nature ... (and, `relating' might still happen) Following your nature is ...following your dharma ... Nature comes from within ... Nature flows out ... Nature has center in Self ... `Relationship' has center Outside ! Nature is not concerned, nature is `natural', ... nature is effortless ! Nature IS ... " In relationship " , ...you try " to be " ... Nature is natural ... It comes automatically, effortlessly ... `Relationship' is conditional ... All relationships are Conditional ! Relationships need time ... It `exists' because of past, it `lives' because of future ... ( Death of past is the death of relationship ... Death of future is the End of Relationship...) End of time is ...the beginning of freedom ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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