Sudden Realization

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Here is some more good dialog.Enjoy....Doug

 

(M)

There is no complete full and sudden realization of one's 'real

being'. The process is to clear away the obscurations to our natural

condition and as this happens the truth of the nondual begins to

shine through gradually. The preparation *is* the gradual seeing

into the nature of the false. The thing is not so clear-cut.

Confusion and clarity live side by side and can manifest when the

conditions for either to manifest allow for it. Anything is possible

at any stage or anytime or any circumstance.

 

>>And also after the realisation of one's own real nature there is

still some work to do,

even if there is nobody anymore to do it.>>

 

(M)

According to Spiritual Humanism this is not the case. If the path

has been travelled well, and if the instrument has been well prepared

(got rid of its many forms by which the truth of the non-dual living

moment is obscured), finally there is no more work to do but simply

to remain in the free, open and natural state. That which has been

*more* than this great Simplicity has by then fallen away by non-use.

 

>>Gradual unfolding happens within nondualtiy, nonseparation,>>

 

(M)

No. Non-duality unfolds from moment to moment as its own living

_expression. When non-duality is the case, no gradual unfolding is

evident. Gradual unfolding is only evident while the being is still

caught in the clutches of their own dualistic vision and when right

practice allows for the light of the non-dual nature of things to

begin to shine through the fog of our uninspected living.

 

>>human beings exist in nonduality, nonseparation, as recognizable

specific forms,

though from the ultimate point of view there are no individual

beings,>>

 

(M)

Individuality and diversity of appearance are not in conflict with

the non-dual truth of the living moment. An 'Ultimate view' which

denies this simple observable truth, is merely another concept

projected onto the truth of our living reality which, on present

evidence, does not substantiate this 'ultimately nothing exists' view

of the Hindu traditions. Spiritual Humanism simply states that as

long as we are human, awake, not in some meditative trance or state

of deep inner absorption, there will always be a body, mind, thought,

emotions, feelings etc., and there will always be the world of

the 'senses'. On present evidence this will always be the case. Our

task is to establsih the right relationship between all these diverse

appearances and to recognize that none of these has any truly

separate existence from our human condition. Only in this does the

nondual truth of the living moment become self-evident for us as

humans.