Guest guest Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 I understand Ramesh Balsekar as saying there is an absolute Destiny governed by that ONE conciousness. Atop the layers of free will /destiny lies the absolute. so my writing this email is also predestined. right? So there is in reality NO FREE WILL. dIvine Hypnosis (MAYA) makes us assume that we have free will. And if it is true that you and I do not exist except as a " Body-Mind " Organism, then it makes " Absolute sense " My question is when one visualizes an object, circumstance etc., and it comes true, is it free will or is it pre-cognition of a super-destiny??? ravi Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Nisargadatta , ravi D <ravi_tattvamasi> wrote: > I understand Ramesh Balsekar as saying there is an absolute Destiny governed by that ONE conciousness. Atop the layers of free will /destiny lies the absolute. so my writing this email is also predestined. right? So there is in reality NO FREE WILL. dIvine Hypnosis (MAYA) makes us assume that we have free will. And if it is true that you and I do not exist except as a " Body-Mind " Organism, then it makes " Absolute sense " My question is when one visualizes an object, circumstance etc., and it comes true, is it free will or is it pre-cognition of a super-destiny??? > > ravi > I think that there is a superdestiny, but that free will is a part of what forms this destiny. The future is not determined, _yet_. Never will be. There is always newness, and also an evolutionary arrow that makes existence take higher and higher (more complex) forms. There is superdestiny only now, not in the future. Free will is as real as, say for example anger. We are evolution in action, not separate from it. Evolution chooses its way through a jungle of entropy/disorder. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > Nisargadatta , ravi D <ravi_tattvamasi> > wrote: > > I understand Ramesh Balsekar as saying there is an absolute Destiny > governed by that ONE conciousness. Atop the layers of free > will /destiny lies the absolute. so my writing this email is also > predestined. right? So there is in reality NO FREE WILL. dIvine > Hypnosis (MAYA) makes us assume that we have free will. And if it is > true that you and I do not exist except as a " Body-Mind " Organism, > then it makes " Absolute sense " My question is when one visualizes an > object, circumstance etc., and it comes true, is it free will or is > it pre-cognition of a super-destiny??? > > > > ravi > > > > > I think that there is a superdestiny, but that free will is a part of > what forms this destiny. The future is not determined, _yet_. Never > will be. There is always newness, and also an evolutionary arrow that > makes existence take higher and higher (more complex) forms. There is > superdestiny only now, not in the future. Free will is as real as, > say for example anger. We are evolution in action, not separate from > it. Evolution chooses its way through a jungle of entropy/disorder. > > al.>> " The only being is becomming. " Sri Aurobindo. Hey al, you're in good company. Both Anna and Sri Aurobindo agree with you. You're all set, al, for the rest of THIS incarnation, at least. Brother Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , ravi D <ravi_tattvamasi> > > wrote: > > > I understand Ramesh Balsekar as saying there is an absolute > Destiny > > governed by that ONE conciousness. Atop the layers of free > > will /destiny lies the absolute. so my writing this email is also > > predestined. right? So there is in reality NO FREE WILL. dIvine > > Hypnosis (MAYA) makes us assume that we have free will. And if it > is > > true that you and I do not exist except as a " Body-Mind " Organism, > > then it makes " Absolute sense " My question is when one visualizes > an > > object, circumstance etc., and it comes true, is it free will or > is > > it pre-cognition of a super-destiny??? > > > > > > ravi > > > > > > > > > I think that there is a superdestiny, but that free will is a part > of > > what forms this destiny. The future is not determined, _yet_. Never > > will be. There is always newness, and also an evolutionary arrow > that > > makes existence take higher and higher (more complex) forms. There > is > > superdestiny only now, not in the future. Free will is as real as, > > say for example anger. We are evolution in action, not separate > from > > it. Evolution chooses its way through a jungle of entropy/disorder. > > > > al.>> > > " The only being is becomming. " Sri Aurobindo. > > Hey al, you're in good company. > > Both Anna and Sri Aurobindo agree with you. > > You're all set, al, for the rest of THIS incarnation, at least. > > Brother Gary Hi Gary, Do you mean that becomming and free will point to the same thing? al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > anders_lindman > Nisargadatta > Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:08 AM > Re: Is there a super destiny??? > > > Nisargadatta , ravi D <ravi_tattvamasi> > wrote: > > I understand Ramesh Balsekar as saying there is an absolute Destiny > governed by that ONE conciousness. Atop the layers of free > will /destiny lies the absolute. so my writing this email is also > predestined. right? So there is in reality NO FREE WILL. dIvine > Hypnosis (MAYA) makes us assume that we have free will. And if it is > true that you and I do not exist except as a " Body-Mind " Organism, > then it makes " Absolute sense " My question is when one visualizes an > object, circumstance etc., and it comes true, is it free will or is > it pre-cognition of a super-destiny??? > > > > ravi > > > > > I think that there is a superdestiny, but that free will is a part of > what forms this destiny. The future is not determined, _yet_. Never > will be. There is always newness, and also an evolutionary arrow that > makes existence take higher and higher (more complex) forms. There is > superdestiny only now, not in the future. Free will is as real as, > say for example anger. We are evolution in action, not separate from > it. Evolution chooses its way through a jungle of entropy/disorder. > > al. > > > Man is Nature. > Nature is Evolution > Evolution is man's Nature. > I Am > Consciousness > Evolving. > See > What > I See. > > Anna > It would perhaps be better to say that evolution is both the man and his nature. See? ;-) al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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