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Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...>

wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " blueoceantiger " <jkane@d...>

> wrote:

> > Nisargadatta , " sunyani9 " <sunyani9>

> wrote:

> > > To all the souls that visit this site do you have peace within

> your

> > > house ,your vehicle that carrys your soul?

> > >

> > > If so, how did you arrive at that wonder of wonders?

> > >

> > > You have peaceful day!

> > > And if challenges come to steal your peace and fail,then you

> > truelly

> > > have it.

> > >

> > > Sunyani

> >

> >

> > thanks for the question, sunyani.

> >

> > i don't really follow the metaphor of having a house

> > that holds peace. what i have found is that peace

> > simply is always present, as present as the silence

> > that permeates everything no matter what is arising.

> > honestly, it has not been my experience of peace being

> > something i can own or hold. if anything, having people

> > attribute feeling peace around me, believing i had to

> > create it and chasing experience of peace kept me from

> > seeing it is always here. when i began to get that it

> > is so empty, clear, beyond concepts, it also struck me

> > that it is the same peace that anyone sees/knows. it

> > simply is. with many stories and descriptions around

> > where perceptions have personalized it.

> >

> > as to how i became aware of this, it seems there have

> > been many variations on a theme of surrender, of

> > just stopping, and not trying to avoid or change what

> > is here. and in that, a stillness becomes felt as

> > more real than anything that can appear to threaten

> > peace. through a willingness to really be present,

> > i've discovered there is, that which can never be

> > touched by what appears. for me, this enters what is

> > wordless, yet, peace is real.

> >

> > --josie--

> >===================================

>

> Thanks Josie for writing better than I can.

>

> Your words are, or point to, the same harmony and Joy that you

call

> Peace. These words take us far beyond the words we call gods, and

> their saints.

>

> These words are saying that YOU are not the mind and body. Or,

these

> words come from YOU, this Peace, and not the mind and its body

called

> Josie.

>

> This Peace is not only real but it is the only thing that is

> " real " because it is the timeless NOW. Everything else is

> the noise or disturbance of NOW called karma, time, thoughts,

and

> words, like gods and saints.

>

> The gods and their words cannot know this Peace because they are

also

> a disturbance of NOW, the noise we call thoughts, words, karma,

> time – the mind.

>

> But if the gods knew this Peace they would be breaking down doors

to

> give YOU their souls to get it.

>

> And to give them this Peace YOU would have to convince them that

> THEY ARE what they think you have but in fact YOU ARE, NOW.

>

> -- thoughts for NOW

 

gene:

 

you write absolutely fine your self.

i have come to see that we all write

as we are and truly need not be any

way otherwise. whether correcting or

believing that others must shift what

they are saying, believing one is a

student, another a teacher, or that

one is simply sharing, it is all good.

each speaks from where they are, no

one more perfectly or less than another.

 

resonance or preferences do not include

or exclude truth. but anything i say

" not you " to, separates a part of myself.

when truly opening to see -that of course,

this is where " you " are right now, where

" i " am right now-, any struggle dissolves.

there is no need for it to be different,

and in letting go of " it is more or less " ,

" should or shouldn't " , the greatest peace

of all is allowed, welcomed. equanimity.

 

nothing " other " to strive for. just to

simply be here as is. with each other,

with our selves, our self.

 

--josie--

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