may I interject? who is the I?

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Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...>

> wrote:

> > Dear sam_t_7

> >

> > Did you read the book " I AM THAT " or the 3 volume book " Nothing

> Ever

> > Happened " or " Consciousness Speaks " or " Talks with Ramana

> > Maharshi " ... or the Bhagavad Gita or the Upanishads?

> >

> > If so then you should read them again, and if need be again and

> if

> > need be even again UNTIL you can start to understand the very

> basics

> > of what they are talking about, like: I AM THAT and NOTHING EVER

> > HAPPENED.

> >

> > the LOVE YOU are, NOW

> >

> > =-=========================

>

>

> sam: All the reading in the world won't do it. You can read it

> again and again and again, but just one reading of your sentence

> indicates a contradiction in the very thing you're saying;

>

> " " I AM THAT and NOTHING EVER HAPPENED. " "

>

>

> do you get the contradictory quality?

> Nothing ever happened (sure)

> but You are That which never happened.

>

> In the middle of those two is the answer to your dilemma.

> They aren't mutally exclusive one from the other.

> Nothing ever happend, yet it continues to happen in the form of

> Gene.

> This bridge you can't gap if you keep reading these books by people

> whom you esteem as the authoritative voice. Only through silence

> of your own inner voice - not by taking other people's ideas as

> gospel- can you break through this dilemma of contradiction your in.

> you can't even see your in a contradiction much less bridge it.

> if it works for you keep doing it. it doesn't work for me so I

> don't follow your program of books.

=-=

 

 

MY ego called " you, Sam " just cannot understand MY ego called

" me. "

 

I AM THAT and it is NOTHING. I AM NOTHING. The Nothings who wrote

those books are the same NOTHING that I AM. I could give a hoot as

to who you think they are or what they said – because they never

existed. They never existed any more than characters exist in my

sleep-dreams.

 

But – unless I'm totally lost and you are totally found –

this is a group for/on non-duality.

 

And non-duality is a language where words like " bridge " or

" exclusive or authoritative or contradictions " have no

meaning except to create and fuel dualities to the heights of your

wisdom and everyone else's stupidity.

 

To ME there is no other – there is no wisdom nor stupidity, so

there is no student or teacher. IS anything here making any sense

to my ego called " you " ?

 

IN fact non-duality is not even a language. It is just a JOY or LOVE

that is the language that is not needed because there is nothing to

communicate between ONE and the same ONE – there is no other,

teacher or student. THAT IS WHAT non-dualitiy means -- THERE IS NO

OTHER. Just like in a dream there is no other -- only the dreamer.

 

If MY ego called " you " is going to communicate with MY ego

called " me " then it will only happen with a common language

– this common language in this non-duality group – I ASSUME

-- should

be non-dualistic. The same language the imaginary Nisargadatta

used/was/is.

 

If this group is not about non-duality then please tell me and

I'm gone.

 

If this group is about non-duality then MY ego called " you "

should learn the language and forget about bridges and gaps and

contradictions and following books… everything that non-duality

is not.

-=-

AND SO I REPEAT: Did you read the book " I AM THAT " or the 3 volume

book " Nothing > Ever > > Happened " or " Consciousness Speaks "

or " Talks with Ramana > > Maharshi " ... or the Bhagavad Gita or the

Upanishads?

> > > > If so then you should read them again, and if need be again

and if need be even again UNTIL you can start to understand their

LANGUAGE/LOVE of NON-DUALITY that say: " There is no doer, " and I

AM THAT and NOTHING EVER HAPPENED.

 

Your words " bridge and gap...teacher and student " tells me

that MY ego called " you " has no idea of what this language of non-

duality, LOVE, is about.

 

AND THE JOKE is that if MY ego called " me " and MY ego called

" you " did speak this same language of non-duality then there

would be no language only the LOVE that I AM and YOU ARE and only

your dualistic language can tell MY ego called " you "

otherwise.

 

the Love YOU ARE, NOW