What's up with the Me/Gene

[Guest guest]

Well, Pete;

 

In the Great Analogy so oft entertained

here, is that bit about not needing to

die; about being forgiven. I offer that

that can be considered as a valid way

to 'just be', if a person can take it

in.

 

The huge impetus in our various 'spiritual

lists' is to orbit around the concept of

'ego is trouble' and 'ridding oneself of

the ego', etc. Which, if you think about

it, the concept needs a bit of work, being

inherently self-contradictory.

 

The more refined 'approaches' treat the

'ego problem' as 'not a problem'; eg,

that identity is simply what it is, that

it is not really 'you' anyway, and that

this can be seen, and once seen, other

issues may take the fore.

 

Specifically, what is 'not you' cannot

die, never having lived. So to mix up

the words does noone any good service,

but merely prolongs the state of

confusion as to what is 'me', 'you',

and 'Self' with capital S.

 

'Self' will not die, yet it lives, even

though unborn, in the human sense of the

word. 'self' does not live, and so also

cannot die.

 

I find much evidence that there are

few 'issues' which allow such vehement

self-flagellation, such arousal of

passions, as the issue of 'ego vs

spiritual awakening'; and this is a

vortex which seems to trap a lot of

people. It is a vortex which can

vanish in an instant, via just a little

critical thinking.

 

Hopefully, what will 'die' is this tragic

mixing of levels, which passes for

'spiritual understanding'; sloppy use of

terms, uncritical reading or hearing of

'teachings', and the very momentum to

become 'what one assumes one is not'.

 

 

==GP==

 

 

P: Yes, Gene, I agree with 'mine' understanding

of what you wrote, and will further add to it

to pleasure myself.

 

The problem with the 'me' is dual:

 

A) There is the problem of wanting to preserve

that which only manifest moment to moment, and

has no reality as an entity. This effort, and

the anxiety about the death of the imagined

entity is the main problem.

 

B: The " me " is company in the love affair of the

One with the One. Unmediated " self " enjoyment

requires that the " me " leaves the room. At other

times the voyeur me is OK and even adds to the fun,

but fundamentally the One sees the One only in aloneness.