Guest guest Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 On Aug 14, 2005, at 9:33 AM, GuruRatings wrote: > The guru puts the situation in a single line: > > Man vidh chaanan vaykhiaa > > > 'Man' means the mind. 'Vidh' means to make a hole, like > when you punch a hole in the earlobe to put in earings. > 'Man vidh' is a beautiful phrase. It means you penetrate > through the mind and make a hole in it, like a pearl, or > a bead. That is a procedure, A condition to walk the path, > 'man vidh'. The the guru completes it: 'Man vidh chaanan vaykhiaa' > " Chaanan' is the light, the Infinite Reality. 'Vaykhiaa' > is to see, So, you must go through the mind, penetrate it, > and through that hole you will see the light beyond. That > is what soul is. That is also what God is. That vision > takes you beyond your reactions and carries you for > the long run to infinity " . > > > The Mind: Its Projections > and Multiple Facets. Yogi Bhajan > > > May This Be of Benefit > > Joyce > P: Notice the above is all vague metaphor, gold plated BS. " To make a hole in the mind " is a meaningless meta4. He doesn't tell you how. He just compares the mind to a pearl, and let you to figure out how one makes a hole in a function such as a mind. He sweetens the pill with key phrases like, light, and infinite reality. " So you must go thru the mind " How? is it a room? He doesn't say. He promises you'll see a light beyond which is the soul. Again more gold plated BS. By using meta4s he wants to create the impression you have learned something, when in reality you just heard a mediocre poem. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 Thank you for the delightfully honest remark on " a vote for no BS.... " I did enjoy it. It gets to be a little much for me also sometimes even I sound full it some days <S> Hole light mind no mind enlightened not aware ect <S> I am holding my bad cat if I don't hold him just right he bites me hard.............such simplicity right to the point <S> I need to take lessons from him. Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie4@e...> wrote: > > On Aug 14, 2005, at 9:33 AM, GuruRatings wrote: > > > The guru puts the situation in a single line: > > > > Man vidh chaanan vaykhiaa > > > > > > 'Man' means the mind. 'Vidh' means to make a hole, like > > when you punch a hole in the earlobe to put in earings. > > 'Man vidh' is a beautiful phrase. It means you penetrate > > through the mind and make a hole in it, like a pearl, or > > a bead. That is a procedure, A condition to walk the path, > > 'man vidh'. The the guru completes it: 'Man vidh chaanan vaykhiaa' > > " Chaanan' is the light, the Infinite Reality. 'Vaykhiaa' > > is to see, So, you must go through the mind, penetrate it, > > and through that hole you will see the light beyond. That > > is what soul is. That is also what God is. That vision > > takes you beyond your reactions and carries you for > > the long run to infinity " . > > > > > > The Mind: Its Projections > > and Multiple Facets. Yogi Bhajan > > > > > > May This Be of Benefit > > > > Joyce > > > > > P: Notice the above is all vague metaphor, gold > plated BS. " To make a hole in the mind " is a > meaningless meta4. He doesn't tell you how. ********** Bingo! Because there is no " how " . just posted to the ranch list: The soap opera story of " you " that never seems to finally work out. :-) Judi ************ You know I see everyone trying to figure out " nonduality " , trying to figure out the " guru " , " find " the guru, " follow " the guru, hate the guru, love the guru, ignore the guru, " figure " out this, figure out that. None of that works. The guru is not to be found. S/he can't be followed. S/he's flown the coop. Analyze, philosphize, whine, emote, ignore, deny, wax, bullshit, scream, whatever, you will never ever " find " and it accomplishes nothing, except it demonstrates your own stupidity of life, your own stupidity of yourself. Your own general lack of character. Falling to yourself, surrender, is a different matter altogether, and has nothing whatsoever to do with you finding or figuring out, or accomplishng anything. Do yourself and the world a favor, surrender! You egotistical sonsabitches. Judi http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/judi-1.htm TheEndOfTheRopeRanch/ > He just compares the mind to a pearl, and > let you to figure out how one makes a hole > in a function such as a mind. He sweetens the > pill with key phrases like, light, and infinite reality. > > " So you must go thru the mind " How? is it a room? > He doesn't say. He promises you'll see a light beyond > which is the soul. Again more gold plated BS. By > using meta4s he wants to create the impression > you have learned something, when in reality you > just heard a mediocre poem. > > Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 > > > > > The guru puts the situation in a single line: > > > > > > Man vidh chaanan vaykhiaa > > > > > > > > > 'Man' means the mind. 'Vidh' means to make a hole, like > > > when you punch a hole in the earlobe to put in earings. > > > 'Man vidh' is a beautiful phrase. It means you penetrate > > > through the mind and make a hole in it, like a pearl, or > > > a bead. That is a procedure, A condition to walk the path, > > > 'man vidh'. The the guru completes it: 'Man vidh chaanan vaykhiaa' > > > " Chaanan' is the light, the Infinite Reality. 'Vaykhiaa' > > > is to see, So, you must go through the mind, penetrate it, > > > and through that hole you will see the light beyond. That > > > is what soul is. That is also what God is. That vision > > > takes you beyond your reactions and carries you for > > > the long run to infinity " . > > > > > > > > > The Mind: Its Projections > > > and Multiple Facets. Yogi Bhajan > > > > > > > > > May This Be of Benefit > > > > > > Joyce > > > > > > > > > P: Notice the above is all vague metaphor, gold > > plated BS. " To make a hole in the mind " is a > > meaningless meta4. He doesn't tell you how. > > > ********** > Bingo! Because there is no " how " . > > just posted to the ranch list: > > The soap opera story of " you " > that never seems to finally work out. :-) > > Judi > > ************ > You know I see everyone trying to figure out " nonduality " , trying to > figure out the " guru " , " find " the guru, " follow " the guru, hate the > guru, love the guru, ignore the guru, " figure " out this, figure out > that. None of that works. The guru is not to be found. S/he can't be > followed. S/he's flown the coop. > > Analyze, philosphize, whine, emote, ignore, deny, wax, bullshit, > scream, whatever, you will never ever " find " and it accomplishes > nothing, except it demonstrates your own stupidity of life, your own > stupidity of yourself. Your own general lack of character. > > Falling to yourself, surrender, is a different matter altogether, and > has nothing whatsoever to do with you finding or figuring out, or > accomplishng anything. > > Do yourself and the world a favor, surrender! > > You egotistical sonsabitches. > > Judi > > http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/judi-1.htm > TheEndOfTheRopeRanch/ > He just compares the mind to a pearl, and > > let you to figure out how one makes a hole > > in a function such as a mind. He sweetens the > > pill with key phrases like, light, and infinite reality. > > > > " So you must go thru the mind " How? is it a room? > > He doesn't say. He promises you'll see a light beyond > > which is the soul. Again more gold plated BS. By > > using meta4s he wants to create the impression > > you have learned something, when in reality you > > just heard a mediocre poem. > > > > Pete Judi, why do you advertise the ranch when you let hardly anyone stay there ? and don't be fucking rude to me ! no namecalling ! just answer please Era .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Era " <mi_nok> wrote: > > > > > > > The guru puts the situation in a single line: > > > > > > > > Man vidh chaanan vaykhiaa > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Man' means the mind. 'Vidh' means to make a hole, like > > > > when you punch a hole in the earlobe to put in earings. > > > > 'Man vidh' is a beautiful phrase. It means you penetrate > > > > through the mind and make a hole in it, like a pearl, or > > > > a bead. That is a procedure, A condition to walk the path, > > > > 'man vidh'. The the guru completes it: 'Man vidh chaanan vaykhiaa' > > > > " Chaanan' is the light, the Infinite Reality. 'Vaykhiaa' > > > > is to see, So, you must go through the mind, penetrate it, > > > > and through that hole you will see the light beyond. That > > > > is what soul is. That is also what God is. That vision > > > > takes you beyond your reactions and carries you for > > > > the long run to infinity " . > > > > > > > > > > > > The Mind: Its Projections > > > > and Multiple Facets. Yogi Bhajan > > > > > > > > > > > > May This Be of Benefit > > > > > > > > Joyce > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: Notice the above is all vague metaphor, gold > > > plated BS. " To make a hole in the mind " is a > > > meaningless meta4. He doesn't tell you how. > > > > > > ********** > > Bingo! Because there is no " how " . > > > > just posted to the ranch list: > > > > The soap opera story of " you " > > that never seems to finally work out. :-) > > > > Judi > > > > ************ > > You know I see everyone trying to figure out " nonduality " , trying to > > figure out the " guru " , " find " the guru, " follow " the guru, hate the > > guru, love the guru, ignore the guru, " figure " out this, figure out > > that. None of that works. The guru is not to be found. S/he can't be > > followed. S/he's flown the coop. > > > > Analyze, philosphize, whine, emote, ignore, deny, wax, bullshit, > > scream, whatever, you will never ever " find " and it accomplishes > > nothing, except it demonstrates your own stupidity of life, your own > > stupidity of yourself. Your own general lack of character. > > > > Falling to yourself, surrender, is a different matter altogether, and > > has nothing whatsoever to do with you finding or figuring out, or > > accomplishng anything. > > > > Do yourself and the world a favor, surrender! > > > > You egotistical sonsabitches. > > > > Judi > > > > http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/judi-1.htm > > TheEndOfTheRopeRanch/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He just compares the mind to a pearl, and > > > let you to figure out how one makes a hole > > > in a function such as a mind. He sweetens the > > > pill with key phrases like, light, and infinite reality. > > > > > > " So you must go thru the mind " How? is it a room? > > > He doesn't say. He promises you'll see a light beyond > > > which is the soul. Again more gold plated BS. By > > > using meta4s he wants to create the impression > > > you have learned something, when in reality you > > > just heard a mediocre poem. > > > > > > Pete > > > Judi, why do you advertise the > ranch when you let hardly anyone stay there ? > > and don't be fucking rude to me ! > > no namecalling ! > > just answer please > > > Era > > ********** Read the list description, it explains it all, and why of course, you're not welcome. Simply put, it's a list for adults. Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Well, so she can be rude, obnoxious and bossy isn't it obvious? Bet she is fat as hell. <S> Course I can be rude back <S> which is great fun. Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Nisargadatta , rb2lb2@c... wrote: > Well, so she can be rude, obnoxious and bossy isn't it obvious? Bet she is > fat as hell. <S> Course I can be rude back <S> which is great fun. Laura > > *********** And that 5th-grade mindset of yours is why you were not admitted. Adults only. Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Era " <mi_nok> wrote: > > > > > > Judi, why do you advertise the > ranch when you let hardly anyone stay there ? > > and don't be fucking rude to me ! > > no namecalling ! > > just answer please > > > Era > > > .==== I can understand why lepers leave their colony, or group, to try infect others with their leprosy. What I cannot understand is why someone would want to join a leper colony to get leprosy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Era " <mi_nok> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Judi, why do you advertise the > > ranch when you let hardly anyone stay there ? > > > > and don't be fucking rude to me ! > > > > no namecalling ! > > > > just answer please > > > > > > Era > > > > > > .==== > I can understand why lepers leave their colony, or group, to try > infect others with their leprosy. > What I cannot understand is why someone would want to join a leper > colony to get leprosy. *********** Because they want understanding more than they want their own life? Lose your life, find yourself. Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 > > > > > > > > > Judi, why do you advertise the > > ranch when you let hardly anyone stay there ? > > > > and don't be fucking rude to me ! > > > > no namecalling ! > > > > just answer please > > > > > > Era > > > > > > .==== > I can understand why lepers leave their colony, or group, to try > infect others with their leprosy. > What I cannot understand is why someone would want to join a leper > colony to get leprosy. szia Gene, yak ! I'm secret snob, there are 4 minds there whose exchanges I like to observe and they are not together at any other forum, so I would skip over fierly horseshit to read them Sandeep, Greg Goode, Bruce Morgan and Dan Berkow Era their pages are here <http://santmat-meditation.net/nondual_writings/> Sandeep's nondual club <the-covenant> .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Judi Rhodes " <judirhodes@c...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Era " <mi_nok> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Judi, why do you advertise the > > > ranch when you let hardly anyone stay there ? > > > > > > and don't be fucking rude to me ! > > > > > > no namecalling ! > > > > > > just answer please > > > > > > > > > Era > > > > > > > > > .==== > > I can understand why lepers leave their colony, or group, to try > > infect others with their leprosy. > > What I cannot understand is why someone would want to join a leper > > colony to get leprosy. > > > *********** > Because they want understanding more than they want their own life? > > Lose your life, find yourself. > > Judi > ======================= But dearest Judi -- if you knew anything about non-duality, Advaita, you would realize that there is not only Nothing to understand but there is also no doer that can have a life to be in a position to understand if there could be something to understand. In non-duality there is only the Self, Atman, and there is no other. Other than Reality, Atman, Samadhi, there is only the Nothing called Fiction (maya) that includes all the imaginary super-egos that do not have a clue what fiction is and yet they use it with authority to claim they know and understand the EVERYTYHING that the Nothing called fiction can never be: Reality. -- just words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Judi Rhodes " <judirhodes@c...> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...> > > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " Era " <mi_nok> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judi, why do you advertise the > > > > ranch when you let hardly anyone stay there ? > > > > > > > > and don't be fucking rude to me ! > > > > > > > > no namecalling ! > > > > > > > > just answer please > > > > > > > > > > > > Era > > > > > > > > > > > > .==== > > > I can understand why lepers leave their colony, or group, to try > > > infect others with their leprosy. > > > What I cannot understand is why someone would want to join a > leper > > > colony to get leprosy. > > > > > > *********** > > Because they want understanding more than they want their own life? > > > > Lose your life, find yourself. > > > > Judi > > ======================= > But dearest Judi -- if you knew anything about non-duality, Advaita, > you would realize that there is not only Nothing to understand but > there is also no doer that can have a life to be in a position to > understand if there could be something to understand. > > In non-duality there is only the Self, Atman, and there is no other. > > Other than Reality, Atman, Samadhi, there is only the Nothing called > Fiction (maya) that includes all the imaginary super-egos that do > not have a clue what fiction is and yet they use it with authority to > claim they know and understand the EVERYTYHING that the Nothing > called fiction can never be: Reality. > > -- just words *********** Well, if and when you're at the end of your rope with trying to figure everything out, you let me know. Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Judi Rhodes " <judirhodes@c...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Judi Rhodes " > <judirhodes@c...> > > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...> > > > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Era " <mi_nok> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judi, why do you advertise the > > > > > ranch when you let hardly anyone stay there ? > > > > > > > > > > and don't be fucking rude to me ! > > > > > > > > > > no namecalling ! > > > > > > > > > > just answer please > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Era > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .==== > > > > I can understand why lepers leave their colony, or group, to > try > > > > infect others with their leprosy. > > > > What I cannot understand is why someone would want to join a > > leper > > > > colony to get leprosy. > > > > > > > > > *********** > > > Because they want understanding more than they want their own > life? > > > > > > Lose your life, find yourself. > > > > > > Judi > > > ======================= > > But dearest Judi -- if you knew anything about non-duality, > Advaita, > > you would realize that there is not only Nothing to understand but > > there is also no doer that can have a life to be in a position to > > understand if there could be something to understand. > > > > In non-duality there is only the Self, Atman, and there is no > other. > > > > Other than Reality, Atman, Samadhi, there is only the Nothing > called > > Fiction (maya) that includes all the imaginary super-egos that > do > > not have a clue what fiction is and yet they use it with authority > to > > claim they know and understand the EVERYTYHING that the Nothing > > called fiction can never be: Reality. > > > > -- just words > > *********** > Well, if and when you're at the end of your rope with trying to > figure everything out, you let me know. > > Judi ================================= Dearest Judi: Far-far beyond my wildest dreams I AM TOTAL and Complete. There is nothing I need; and everything I have I don't need, and that includes all my belongings, my health, family, friends and even life. As you suggest, I am letting you know: When utter Peace and Freedom makes you perfectly total and complete then there is nothing left to do, and there is also nothing left to figure out. And when I think that I must be full of shit it can only make me laugh because to this JOY of Peace and Freedom -- that I AM and YOU ARE and ALL IS – this shit, and indeed all the shit in the world, cannot make a difference. -- just words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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