Guest guest Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 advaitajnana , " saktidasa " <saktidasa> wrote: advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " <aoclery> wrote: Namaste, A handful of humans on the planet right now have probably achieved Moksha. A somewhat lesser amount of animals will have done the same. Once you take away the advantage of human brain hardware, which is mostly unused, we have only an IQ difference of 10-20 points. An animal achieves Moksha through self sacrifice and pure Bhakti. A great discriminatory brain is not necessary....99% of humans are actully human animals aspiring to be humans, but have karmic baggage the animal world doesn't have.........ONS...Tony. PS. Bhakti is really to create Ekagratha or one pointedness, and a great discriminatory mind isn't necessary. There are many tribals and uneducated people who no doubt attain Moksha, which is a subjective process anyway. The whole process is to become the great 'I' which at the same time realises Nir guna, which prior to that may not have been understood or even desired as such. Lakshmi the cow, channeled all her mind, the thorn, into pure love of Ramana, so focussed she became the 'Great Love Energy-I'. One must remind oneself that 'God' doesn't have a mind..............ONS...Tony. --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 Tony, I always find your views mature and to the point. Thanks Sachin ---- Tony OClery 08/25/05 21:58:43 nisargadatta Fwd: Further on Lakshmi the cow and Moksha advaitajnana , " saktidasa " <saktidasa> wrote: advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " <aoclery> wrote: Namaste, A handful of humans on the planet right now have probably achieved Moksha. A somewhat lesser amount of animals will have done the same. Once you take away the advantage of human brain hardware, which is mostly unused, we have only an IQ difference of 10-20 points. An animal achieves Moksha through self sacrifice and pure Bhakti. A great discriminatory brain is not necessary....99% of humans are actully human animals aspiring to be humans, but have karmic baggage the animal world doesn't have.........ONS...Tony. PS. Bhakti is really to create Ekagratha or one pointedness, and a great discriminatory mind isn't necessary. There are many tribals and uneducated people who no doubt attain Moksha, which is a subjective process anyway. The whole process is to become the great 'I' which at the same time realises Nir guna, which prior to that may not have been understood or even desired as such. Lakshmi the cow, channeled all her mind, the thorn, into pure love of Ramana, so focussed she became the 'Great Love Energy-I'. One must remind oneself that 'God' doesn't have a mind..............ONS...Tony. --- End forwarded message --- ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Sachin Chavan " <chavansachin@h...> wrote: > Tony, I always find your views mature and to the point. Thanks > > Sachin > advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " <aoclery> > wrote: > Namaste, > > A handful of humans on the planet right now have probably achieved > Moksha. A somewhat lesser amount of animals will have done the same. > Once you take away the advantage of human brain hardware, which is > mostly unused, we have only an IQ difference of 10-20 points. > An animal achieves Moksha through self sacrifice and pure Bhakti. A > great discriminatory brain is not necessary....99% of humans are > actully human animals aspiring to be humans, but have karmic baggage > the animal world doesn't have.........ONS...Tony. > > PS. Bhakti is really to create Ekagratha or one pointedness, and a > great discriminatory mind isn't necessary. There are many tribals > and uneducated people who no doubt attain Moksha, which is a > subjective process anyway. The whole process is to become the > great 'I' which at the same time realises Nir guna, which prior to > that may not have been understood or even desired as such. Lakshmi > the cow, channeled all her mind, the thorn, into pure love of > Ramana, so focussed she became the 'Great Love Energy-I'. One must > remind oneself that 'God' doesn't have a > mind..............ONS...Tony. Namaste SC, Thank you for your kind comments. I think that if one looks at spirituality and all the teachings, it is only logical to reach some conclusions that seem common to many teachers.........Medititation no doubt helps in the stabilisation.............ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery> wrote: Nisargadatta , " Sachin Chavan " <chavansachin@h...> wrote: > Tony, I always find your views mature and to the point. Thanks > > Sachin > advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " <aoclery> > wrote: > Namaste, > > A handful of humans on the planet right now have probably achieved > Moksha. A somewhat lesser amount of animals will have done the same. > Once you take away the advantage of human brain hardware, which is > mostly unused, we have only an IQ difference of 10-20 points. > An animal achieves Moksha through self sacrifice and pure Bhakti. A > great discriminatory brain is not necessary....99% of humans are > actully human animals aspiring to be humans, but have karmic baggage > the animal world doesn't have.........ONS...Tony. > > PS. Bhakti is really to create Ekagratha or one pointedness, and a > great discriminatory mind isn't necessary. There are many tribals > and uneducated people who no doubt attain Moksha, which is a > subjective process anyway. The whole process is to become the > great 'I' which at the same time realises Nir guna, which prior to > that may not have been understood or even desired as such. Lakshmi > the cow, channeled all her mind, the thorn, into pure love of > Ramana, so focussed she became the 'Great Love Energy-I'. One must > remind oneself that 'God' doesn't have a > mind..............ONS...Tony. Namaste SC, Thank you for your kind comments. I think that if one looks at spirituality and all the teachings, it is only logical to reach some conclusions that seem common to many teachers.........Medititation no doubt helps in the stabilisation.............ONS..Tony. --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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