Guest guest Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 The Jnana, or knowledge, that gave birth to Advaita has/had absolutely nothing to do with studying the gods and their scriptures. The Jnana that gave birth to Advaita had to do with the study of thoughts. The sages around the Indus River, in India, used meditation to study their thoughts. When they discovered that thoughts worked exactly like language -- because they were one and the same, fiction -- these sages realized that what was not thoughts. language, was Reality. These sages studied their thoughts to Realize that without Reality there could be no thoughts, language. They realized that between thoughts, words, fiction, there was always a universe-vanishing-gap that was Reality. This universe-vanishing-gap makes it impossible for one thought to be connected with the another. The connection of thoughts is pure illusion, maya. This illusion is the same illusion we get when we think words in stories are connected. The mind is just thoughts – between these thoughts there is no universe because the universe is just a thought that cannot exist between thoughts. The thought called the universe can no more exist between thoughts than can the collection of thoughts called the mind, and its body. Physics tells us the same exact story with its quantum- gaps. Since the mind is just thoughts it has no control of thoughts because control is just a thought. Those sages who woke up to this Reality in the form of Samadhi, Kundalini, universally assured the others that: Compared to the Reality of Samadhi/Kundalini that is EVERYTHING, everything that was/is not this Reality was/is unmitigated fiction. They called this fiction maya. Life and its universe was/is this maya, fiction. Only later, when all sorts of desires and attachments gave birth to cults and their religions did these births use their gurus and gods to redirect this Jnana – the study of thoughts – to the study of scriptures and their gurus and gods that never will have anything to do with the jnana – the study of thoughts/fiction -- which gave us the not-two Reality of Advaita. -- just words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 advaita has nothing to do with a reflection of it as god and scripture? only what has meaning to an individual will prompt it to move beyond false identity. some have need of god or scripture in this process. others do not. Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...> wrote: > The Jnana, or knowledge, that gave birth to Advaita has/had > absolutely nothing to do with studying the gods and their scriptures. > > The Jnana that gave birth to Advaita had to do with the study of > thoughts. The sages around the Indus River, in India, used meditation > to study their thoughts. > > When they discovered that thoughts worked exactly like language -- > because they were one and the same, fiction -- these sages realized > that what was not thoughts. language, was Reality. > > These sages studied their thoughts to Realize that without Reality > there could be no thoughts, language. > > They realized that between thoughts, words, fiction, there was > always a universe-vanishing-gap that was Reality. > > This universe-vanishing-gap makes it impossible for one thought > to be connected with the another. The connection of thoughts is > pure illusion, maya. This illusion is the same illusion we get when > we think words in stories are connected. > > The mind is just thoughts – between these thoughts there is no > universe because the universe is just a thought that cannot exist > between thoughts. The thought called the universe can no more exist > between thoughts than can the collection of thoughts called the mind, > and its body. Physics tells us the same exact story with its quantum- > gaps. > > Since the mind is just thoughts it has no control of thoughts > because control is just a thought. > > Those sages who woke up to this Reality in the form of Samadhi, > Kundalini, universally assured the others that: Compared to the > Reality of Samadhi/Kundalini that is EVERYTHING, everything that > was/is not this Reality was/is unmitigated fiction. > > They called this fiction maya. Life and its universe was/is this > maya, fiction. > > Only later, when all sorts of desires and attachments gave birth to > cults and their religions did these births use their gurus and gods > to redirect this Jnana – the study of thoughts – to the study > of scriptures and their gurus and gods that never will have anything > to do with the jnana – the study of thoughts/fiction -- which > gave us the not-two Reality of Advaita. > > -- just words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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