Guest guest Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 Sri Bhagavan said: THE STATE OF EQUANIMITY IS THE STATE OF BLISS. The declaration in the Vedas 'I am This or That', is ONLY an aid to gain equanimity of mind. MLS.: So, it is wrong to begin with a goal: is it? Ramana: If there be a goal to be reached it cannot be permanent. The goal must already be there. We seek to reach the goal with the ego, but the goal exists before the ego. What is, in the goal is even prior to our birth, i.e., to the birth of the ego. Because we exist the ego appears to exist too. If we look on the Self as the ego then we become the ego, if as the mind we become the mind, if as the body we become the body. It is the thought which builds up sheaths in so many ways. .... The ego is the I-thought. The true 'I' , is the Self. MLS: It is one step to realization. Ramana: Realization is already there. THE STATE FREE FROM THOUGHTS IS THE ONLY REAL STATE. There is no such action as Realization. Is there anyone who is not realizing the Self? Does anyone deny his own existence? Speaking of realization, it implies two selves - the one to realize, the other to be realized. What is not already realized, is sought to be realized. Once we admit our existence, how is it that we do not know our Self? MLS: Because of the thoughts - the mind. Ramana: Quite so. IT IS THE MIND THAT STANDS BETWEEN AND VEILS OUR HAPPINESS. How do we know that we exist? If you say because of the world around us, then how do you know that you existed in deep sleep? MLS: How to get rid of the mind? Ramana: Is it the mind that wants to kill itself? The mind cannot kill itself. So your business is to find the real nature of the mind. Then you will know that there is no mind. WHEN THE SELF IS SOUGHT, THE MIND IS NOWHERE. Abiding in the Self, one need not worry about the mind. MLS: How to get rid of fear? Ramana: What is fear? It is only a thought. If there is anything besides the Self there is reason to fear. Who sees the second (anything external)? First the ego arises and sees objects as external. If the ego does not rise, the Self alone exists and there is no second (nothing external). For anything external to oneself implies the seer within. Seeking it there will arise no doubt, no fear - not only fear, all other thoughts centered round the ego will disappear along with it. MLS.: This method seems to be quicker than the usual one of cultivating qualities alleged necessary for salvation (sadhana chatushtaya )? Ramana: Yes. All bad qualities centre round the ego. WHEN THE EGO IS GONE REALIZATION RESULTS BY ITSELF. There are neither good nor bad qualities in the Self. The Self is free from all qualities. Qualities pertain to the mind only. Self is beyond quality. If there is unity, there will also be duality. The numeral one gives rise to other numbers. THE TRUTH IS NEITHER ONE NOR TWO. IT IS AS IT IS. ----- MLS : Miss Leena Sarabhai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 .... Reality is simply the loss of the ego. Destroy the ego by seeking its identity. Because the ego is no entity it will automatically vanish and Reality will shine forth by itself. This is the direct method. Whereas all other methods are done, only retaining the ego. In those paths there arise so many doubts and the eternal question remains to be tackled finally. But in this method the final question is the only one and it is raised from the very beginning. No sadhanas are necessary for engaging in this quest. There is no greater mystery than this - viz., ourselves being the Reality we seek to gain reality. We think that there is something hiding our Reality and that it must be destroyed before the Reality is gained. It is ridiculous. A day will dawn when you will yourself laugh at your past efforts. THAT which will be ON the day you laugh is also Here and Now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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