Identification of Satguru - Miracles or divine Knowledge?

[Guest guest]

Miracles – God - Identification

 

 

 

Today ignorant people are thinking that the Human form, which does miracles, is

Lord Datta. Demons and devils also do miracles. Are they god? Even if they

claimed themselves as God, sages did not agree. Miracles are only jewels of God,

which can be given to others, by God. If the king donates his jewels to beggar,

does the beggar become the king? Demons and devils are also children of God.

They take the miracles from God, by doing rigid penance. If your child is rigid,

for your gold chain, will you not give it to that weeping child? When the child

wears that gold chain, will the child become the father? Similarly by getting

the powers from God, one does not become God. Knowledge is the shape and bliss

is the beauty of God. The child can get the gold chain from his father, but not

the shape and beauty of the father. Similarly demons and devils may get the

powers from God to do miracles. But they cannot get the knowledge and bliss of

the God. A real devotee recognizes the God in Human

form by his blissful knowledge and not by his miracles. A Queen recognizes her

husband who is the king, by the inseparable shape and beauty of her husband and

not by his jewels. The foolish Queen requires the crown and jewels, to identify

her husband. She rejects her husband, if he comes without crown and jewels. If

some thief comes with that crown and jewels, the foolish queen recognizes him as

her husband. Actually, people like miracles, because through miracles, they will

detect the existence of the powers of God, in that human form. Then they want to

use the powers for their selfish end, like getting wealth, curing disease etc.

This is not selfless love and so it is not the right path to reach God. Hence

miracles are harming the devotees. Hanuman recognized Lord Rama as God in Human

form, even though Rama did not show any miracles and nobody is more intelligent

than Hanuman in this spiritual path.

 

 

 

The essential duty of a Guru is to preach the right knowledge to the people who

approach him. These people are serving the Guru in several ways like pressing

the feet, giving Biksha and giving Dakshina etc. If the Guru keeps silent, it is

not justified. You pay the fees to the teacher and if the teacher keeps silent,

is it justified on his part to take the fees? Some Gurus are giving wrong

knowledge and they will be punished in the Hell, because they have misled the

people, after taking the fees.

 

 

 

A doctor takes the fees from the patient and keeps silent. Another doctor takes

the fees, gives the wrong medicines due to his inefficiency and kills the

patient. Both such doctors are criminals. God punishes the Gurus who do not

preach and the gurus who preach wrong knowledge, because they have taken the

service from the people, who surrendered to them.

 

 

 

The Sadgurus gives the right knowledge, even without your service. When you are

convinced then only, you can do service to him which will help him, to help

others. In fact a Satguru does not need your service because He is the God. He

can help others, by his own powers. But you will not have the right benefit,

because you did not show, the gratefulness to him. Suppose a doctor gives you

medicines, without taking any fees and you get good health. If you are not

paying the fees, even though you are capable, due to greediness, you will die,

with a new disease. So, only for your safety, Satguru advises you to participate

in the service.

 

 

 

 

 

Service consists of two parts.

 

 

 

Paying the fees in terms of money, which you have earned by your work.

Doing some work for the Guru.

 

 

 

You can do either of these or both as per you convenience. When you have taken

meals in the Hotel, either you must pay the bill or do some work in the Hotel or

you can partly pay the bill and partly do the work. The first part is called as

Karma Phala Tyaga; the second part is called Karma Sanyasa. Both, these put

together, are called Karma Yoga or service. This is explained in Bhagawat Gita

clearly. So either you must pay the fees to the doctor or do some help, by

working as a compounder. Without doing, either of these two, you come to the

doctor, praise him by words or express your love, by feelings. What is the use

of all these?

 

 

 

Similarly, you prayers and meditation are of no use, without service. Your

prayers and meditation are like pickles, served in the plate and the bread or

rice, which is the service, is missing in the center of the plate.

 

 

 

You are offering the plate with pickles, as meals then God, takes the pickles

only, His stomach will burn and God will become furious on you. Even if pickles

are absent, the rice or chapatti can be eaten. Hanuman, participated in the work

of God, and did prayer and meditation. That is like a plate of full meal, which

is the service, associated with prayer and meditation. I’m only telling that

prayer and meditation should be associated with the service. If you are unable

to do prayer and meditation you need not bother. You do service alone. God will

bless you.

 

 

 

at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

 

surya

 

 

 

 

SURYA

surya

www.universal-spirituality.org

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000>

wrote:

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> Miracles – God - Identification

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> Today ignorant people are thinking that the Human form, which does

miracles, is Lord Datta. Demons and devils also do miracles. Are they

god? Even if they claimed themselves as God, sages did not agree.

Miracles are only jewels of God, which can be given to others, by

God. If the king donates his jewels to beggar, does the beggar become

the king? Demons and devils are also children of God. They take the

miracles from God, by doing rigid penance. If your child is rigid,

for your gold chain, will you not give it to that weeping child? When

the child wears that gold chain, will the child become the father?

Similarly by getting the powers from God, one does not become God.

Knowledge is the shape and bliss is the beauty of God. The child can

get the gold chain from his father, but not the shape and beauty of

the father. Similarly demons and devils may get the powers from God

to do miracles. But they cannot get the knowledge and bliss of the

God. A real devotee recognizes the God in Human

> form by his blissful knowledge and not by his miracles. A Queen

recognizes her husband who is the king, by the inseparable shape and

beauty of her husband and not by his jewels. The foolish Queen

requires the crown and jewels, to identify her husband. She rejects

her husband, if he comes without crown and jewels. If some thief

comes with that crown and jewels, the foolish queen recognizes him as

her husband. Actually, people like miracles, because through

miracles, they will detect the existence of the powers of God, in

that human form. Then they want to use the powers for their selfish

end, like getting wealth, curing disease etc. This is not selfless

love and so it is not the right path to reach God. Hence miracles are

harming the devotees. Hanuman recognized Lord Rama as God in Human

form, even though Rama did not show any miracles and nobody is more

intelligent than Hanuman in this spiritual path.

>

>

>

> The essential duty of a Guru is to preach the right knowledge to

the people who approach him. These people are serving the Guru in

several ways like pressing the feet, giving Biksha and giving

Dakshina etc. If the Guru keeps silent, it is not justified. You pay

the fees to the teacher and if the teacher keeps silent, is it

justified on his part to take the fees? Some Gurus are giving wrong

knowledge and they will be punished in the Hell, because they have

misled the people, after taking the fees.

>

>

>

> A doctor takes the fees from the patient and keeps silent. Another

doctor takes the fees, gives the wrong medicines due to his

inefficiency and kills the patient. Both such doctors are criminals.

God punishes the Gurus who do not preach and the gurus who preach

wrong knowledge, because they have taken the service from the people,

who surrendered to them.

>

>

>

> The Sadgurus gives the right knowledge, even without your service.

When you are convinced then only, you can do service to him which

will help him, to help others. In fact a Satguru does not need your

service because He is the God. He can help others, by his own powers.

But you will not have the right benefit, because you did not show,

the gratefulness to him. Suppose a doctor gives you medicines,

without taking any fees and you get good health. If you are not

paying the fees, even though you are capable, due to greediness, you

will die, with a new disease. So, only for your safety, Satguru

advises you to participate in the service.

>

>

>

>

>

> Service consists of two parts.

>

>

>

> Paying the fees in terms of money, which you have earned by your

work.

> Doing some work for the Guru.

>

>

>

> You can do either of these or both as per you convenience. When you

have taken meals in the Hotel, either you must pay the bill or do

some work in the Hotel or you can partly pay the bill and partly do

the work. The first part is called as Karma Phala Tyaga; the second

part is called Karma Sanyasa. Both, these put together, are called

Karma Yoga or service. This is explained in Bhagawat Gita clearly. So

either you must pay the fees to the doctor or do some help, by

working as a compounder. Without doing, either of these two, you come

to the doctor, praise him by words or express your love, by feelings.

What is the use of all these?

>

>

>

> Similarly, you prayers and meditation are of no use, without

service. Your prayers and meditation are like pickles, served in the

plate and the bread or rice, which is the service, is missing in the

center of the plate.

>

>

>

> You are offering the plate with pickles, as meals then God, takes

the pickles only, His stomach will burn and God will become furious

on you. Even if pickles are absent, the rice or chapatti can be

eaten. Hanuman, participated in the work of God, and did prayer and

meditation. That is like a plate of full meal, which is the service,

associated with prayer and meditation. I'm only telling that prayer

and meditation should be associated with the service. If you are

unable to do prayer and meditation you need not bother. You do

service alone. God will bless you.

>

>

>

> at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

>

> surya

>

>

>

>

> SURYA

> surya@u...

> www.universal-spirituality.org

 

 

 

....Mirakuloes words....

 

hoping that " God " show the real " identification "

 

Regards and love

 

Marc

 

 

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