Karma - Planets

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I. Correlating Astrology And Theory Of Karma

 

 

Astrologers say that you are getting troubles due to the movement of the

planets. This means that you are getting the trouble not due to your previous

sins. Therefore you feel that you are unnecessarily getting troubles, even

though you have not done any sin. Astrologers say that a police arrests you

because you are going on a road and accidentally the police is also walking on

the same road. You are very anxious to get rid of these troubles because these

are unnecessary punishments for you. The astrologers exploit your anxiety by

suggesting some remedies. The word Graha (planet) means that system which gives

the exact result for your exact deed in exact time.

 

 

 

The planets are just the computers. They are inert and are not independent.

Only Swami can change the decisions. Therefore there is no use of worshipping

the planets. One has to receive the fruits of the deeds whether good or bad

(Naabhuktam Ksheeyate Karma). There is only one way to escape the fruits of the

deeds. The Lord comes down in human form and undergoes the punishments for your

sake and saves you. At the same time He will protect the prestige of God of

Justice and the theory of Karma. This is the main reason for His human

incarnation.

 

 

 

He will never cancel the fruits of deeds. He will sacrifice Himself and

protects you. When you cannot pay the fine, your father pays it. You must

become eligible for such grace of the Lord. The eligibility is achieved by you

when you do not aspire to get rid of the fruits of your deeds and prepare to

undergo the punishments of all your sins. You should never think that the Lord

should sacrifice for your sake.

 

 

 

at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

 

surya

 

 

 

 

anders_lindman <anders_lindman wrote:

I made a definition of karma in relation to the hypothesis of a

planetary organism in another post.

 

We can make a more general definition of karma:

 

Karma is our inability to make choices in harmony with the greater whole.

 

We are only making choices about limited things in the universe. We

don't choose how to digest our food, or how electrical signals shall

travel inside our nervous system. So who makes all these kinds of

choices? One idea is that consciousness is always one step ahead of

physical matter. Consciousness can be seen as the unmoved mover, the

One Subject or what we sometimes call God. Consciousness has already

made the ultimate choice of creation, and we are simply working our

way up the line of this choice. Or, to be more correct, consciousness

is PULLING us up towards itself. The more we become aligned with the

ultimate choice, the less karma we experience. While the choices we

make are important, the end result is always guaranteed. We are safe

in the hands of God and although we may come closer and closer to the

Will of God, we will never reach some destination because in order for

consciousness to be, there must be some " stuff " for it to experience,

hence ever more choices to be made.

 

al.

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000>

wrote:

> I. Correlating Astrology And Theory Of Karma

>

>

> Astrologers say that you are getting troubles due to the movement of

the planets. This means that you are getting the trouble not due to

your previous sins. Therefore you feel that you are unnecessarily

getting troubles, even though you have not done any sin. Astrologers

say that a police arrests you because you are going on a road and

accidentally the police is also walking on the same road. You are

very anxious to get rid of these troubles because these are

unnecessary punishments for you. The astrologers exploit your anxiety

by suggesting some remedies. The word Graha (planet) means that

system which gives the exact result for your exact deed in exact time.

>

>

>

> The planets are just the computers. They are inert and are not

independent. Only Swami can change the decisions. Therefore there is

no use of worshipping the planets. One has to receive the fruits of

the deeds whether good or bad (Naabhuktam Ksheeyate Karma). There is

only one way to escape the fruits of the deeds. The Lord comes down

in human form and undergoes the punishments for your sake and saves

you. At the same time He will protect the prestige of God of Justice

and the theory of Karma. This is the main reason for His human

incarnation.

>

>

>

> He will never cancel the fruits of deeds. He will sacrifice Himself

and protects you. When you cannot pay the fine, your father pays it.

You must become eligible for such grace of the Lord. The eligibility

is achieved by you when you do not aspire to get rid of the fruits of

your deeds and prepare to undergo the punishments of all your sins.

You should never think that the Lord should sacrifice for your sake.

>

>

>

> at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

>

> surya

>

>

 

Nice description. I think karma is the effect of the Lord steering

" creation " towards Himself. And sin is the effect of this steering.

Good deeds are too! So sin and good deeds are two sides on the same

coin, but as karma is reduced both good deeds and sin are merged into

one kind of deeds which we can call devotion. Also, for me, evolution

is a process of reducing karma. Evolution is Lila, the play of form.

And form is Maya. And Maya + Lila can be seen as Indra's Net expanding

forever.

 

al.

 

>

>

> anders_lindman <anders_lindman> wrote:

> I made a definition of karma in relation to the hypothesis of a

> planetary organism in another post.

>

> We can make a more general definition of karma:

>

> Karma is our inability to make choices in harmony with the greater

whole.

>

> We are only making choices about limited things in the universe. We

> don't choose how to digest our food, or how electrical signals shall

> travel inside our nervous system. So who makes all these kinds of

> choices? One idea is that consciousness is always one step ahead of

> physical matter. Consciousness can be seen as the unmoved mover, the

> One Subject or what we sometimes call God. Consciousness has already

> made the ultimate choice of creation, and we are simply working our

> way up the line of this choice. Or, to be more correct, consciousness

> is PULLING us up towards itself. The more we become aligned with the

> ultimate choice, the less karma we experience. While the choices we

> make are important, the end result is always guaranteed. We are safe

> in the hands of God and although we may come closer and closer to the

> Will of God, we will never reach some destination because in order for

> consciousness to be, there must be some " stuff " for it to experience,

> hence ever more choices to be made.

>

> al.

>

>

>

>

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