Guest guest Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 " you can't run away from who you are........our destiny chooses us " Martin Laundau as " Abe Petrovsky " from 1998 movie " Rounders " about a poker game....;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > " you can't run away from who you are........our destiny chooses us " > > > > Martin Laundau as " Abe Petrovsky " from 1998 movie " Rounders " > about a poker game....;-) > > It would be nice if we could relax into our destiny. Not destiny in the form of some mechanical predermined way, but destiny in the form of ultimately being guided by God. If we can begin to see that our destiny is to come ever more close to God in the form of Infinite Love, then we can relax tremendously I believe, and find a peace that is beyond all understanding. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > anders_lindman > Nisargadatta > Monday, September 26, 2005 3:17 PM > Re: another quote!! > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > " you can't run away from who you are........our destiny chooses us " > > > > > > > > Martin Laundau as " Abe Petrovsky " from 1998 movie " Rounders " > > about a poker game....;-) > > > > > > > It would be nice if we could relax into our destiny. Not destiny in > the form of some mechanical predermined way, but destiny in the form > of ultimately being guided by God. If we can begin to see that our > destiny is to come ever more close to God in the form of Infinite > Love, then we can relax tremendously I believe, and find a peace that > is beyond all understanding. > > al. > > > Hi Love, > > who do I think God is? > who do I think I Am? > > as soon as I know who God is > as soon as I know who I Am is > > Then I know there is no-thing but > God, and I can rest as I Am. > > I can rest in I Am. > > I certain Peace and Love. > > > ar. > Yes, but is that the truth for you personally? Do you feel PROFOUND peace as the core of your being, all the time? al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > anders_lindman > Nisargadatta > Monday, September 26, 2005 7:54 PM > Re: another quote!! > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > - > > anders_lindman > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, September 26, 2005 3:17 PM > > Re: another quote!! > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > " you can't run away from who you are........our destiny chooses us " > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin Laundau as " Abe Petrovsky " from 1998 movie " Rounders " > > > about a poker game....;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be nice if we could relax into our destiny. Not destiny in > > the form of some mechanical predermined way, but destiny in the form > > of ultimately being guided by God. If we can begin to see that our > > destiny is to come ever more close to God in the form of Infinite > > Love, then we can relax tremendously I believe, and find a peace that > > is beyond all understanding. > > > > al. > > > > > > Hi Love, > > > > who do I think God is? > > who do I think I Am? > > > > as soon as I know who God is > > as soon as I know who I Am is > > > > Then I know there is no-thing but > > God, and I can rest as I Am. > > > > I can rest in I Am. > > > > I certain Peace and Love. > > > > > > ar. > > > > > Yes, but is that the truth for you personally? Do you feel PROFOUND > peace as the core of your being, all the time? > > al. > > > well, my Friend, it's kinda like this: when I'm glad I'm happy, when I'm sad I sometimes cry, > from the king and I: > etcetera etcetera, > > nothing to get hung up about. > Guess what I'm made PEACE with all my stuff.... and whatever > stuff you can throw at me, at least so far, tomorrow, dunno, > > and as Miss Scarlet said in Gone With The Wind: > > " I'll think about that tomorrow " > > Did we forget, God is none other than THIS? > > how about that? This Is Exactly What Is......eh? ok? right on... > who's on? > > ar > " Don't ye know ye are gods? " doesn't mean that we should struggle with making money to pay the rent and then after a few years die. To be a god means to have the faith of a mustard seed, to be able to say to a mountain: " go an jump into the sea " , and it will do that. " Let the dead bury the dead " , should not be taken as a pointer. It should be taken literary! )))) al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 - anders_lindman Nisargadatta Tuesday, September 27, 2005 6:40 AM Re: another quote!! Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > anders_lindman > Nisargadatta > Monday, September 26, 2005 7:54 PM > Re: another quote!! > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > - > > anders_lindman > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, September 26, 2005 3:17 PM > > Re: another quote!! > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > " you can't run away from who you are........our destiny chooses us " > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin Laundau as " Abe Petrovsky " from 1998 movie " Rounders " > > > about a poker game....;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be nice if we could relax into our destiny. Not destiny in > > the form of some mechanical predermined way, but destiny in the form > > of ultimately being guided by God. If we can begin to see that our > > destiny is to come ever more close to God in the form of Infinite > > Love, then we can relax tremendously I believe, and find a peace that > > is beyond all understanding. > > > > al. > > > > > > Hi Love, > > > > who do I think God is? > > who do I think I Am? > > > > as soon as I know who God is > > as soon as I know who I Am is > > > > Then I know there is no-thing but > > God, and I can rest as I Am. > > > > I can rest in I Am. > > > > I certain Peace and Love. > > > > > > ar. > > > > > Yes, but is that the truth for you personally? Do you feel PROFOUND > peace as the core of your being, all the time? > > al. > > > well, my Friend, it's kinda like this: when I'm glad I'm happy, when I'm sad I sometimes cry, > from the king and I: > etcetera etcetera, > > nothing to get hung up about. > Guess what I'm made PEACE with all my stuff.... and whatever > stuff you can throw at me, at least so far, tomorrow, dunno, > > and as Miss Scarlet said in Gone With The Wind: > > " I'll think about that tomorrow " > > Did we forget, God is none other than THIS? > > how about that? This Is Exactly What Is......eh? ok? right on... > who's on? > > ar > " Don't ye know ye are gods? " doesn't mean that we should struggle with making money to pay the rent and then after a few years die. To be a god means to have the faith of a mustard seed, to be able to say to a mountain: " go an jump into the sea " , and it will do that. " Let the dead bury the dead " , should not be taken as a pointer. It should be taken literary! )))) al. alrighty then, poof, you're in bed with me and my laptop ;-) hmmm. no al. hmmm I must be the mountain to move....;-) hope I didn't scare you, just trying to make a point;-) ar ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Anders If you would have the faith of a mustard seed, then why are you thinking so much and make that much noise here with all your hourly new ideas your mind got again pregnant with ? Werner Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > " Don't ye know ye are gods? " doesn't mean that we should struggle with > making money to pay the rent and then after a few years die. To be a > god means to have the faith of a mustard seed, to be able to say to a > mountain: " go an jump into the sea " , and it will do that. " Let the > dead bury the dead " , should not be taken as a pointer. It should be > taken literary! )))) > > al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > anders_lindman > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, September 27, 2005 6:40 AM > Re: another quote!! > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > - > > anders_lindman > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, September 26, 2005 7:54 PM > > Re: another quote!! > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > > > - > > > anders_lindman > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, September 26, 2005 3:17 PM > > > Re: another quote!! > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> > wrote: > > > > " you can't run away from who you are........our destiny > chooses us " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin Laundau as " Abe Petrovsky " from 1998 movie " Rounders " > > > > about a poker game....;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be nice if we could relax into our destiny. Not > destiny in > > > the form of some mechanical predermined way, but destiny in > the form > > > of ultimately being guided by God. If we can begin to see that our > > > destiny is to come ever more close to God in the form of Infinite > > > Love, then we can relax tremendously I believe, and find a > peace that > > > is beyond all understanding. > > > > > > al. > > > > > > > > > Hi Love, > > > > > > who do I think God is? > > > who do I think I Am? > > > > > > as soon as I know who God is > > > as soon as I know who I Am is > > > > > > Then I know there is no-thing but > > > God, and I can rest as I Am. > > > > > > I can rest in I Am. > > > > > > I certain Peace and Love. > > > > > > > > > ar. > > > > > > > > > Yes, but is that the truth for you personally? Do you feel PROFOUND > > peace as the core of your being, all the time? > > > > al. > > > > > > well, my Friend, it's kinda like this: when I'm glad I'm happy, > when I'm sad I sometimes cry, > > from the king and I: > > etcetera etcetera, > > > > nothing to get hung up about. > > Guess what I'm made PEACE with all my stuff.... and whatever > > stuff you can throw at me, at least so far, tomorrow, dunno, > > > > and as Miss Scarlet said in Gone With The Wind: > > > > " I'll think about that tomorrow " > > > > Did we forget, God is none other than THIS? > > > > how about that? This Is Exactly What Is......eh? ok? right on... > > who's on? > > > > ar > > > > > " Don't ye know ye are gods? " doesn't mean that we should struggle with > making money to pay the rent and then after a few years die. To be a > god means to have the faith of a mustard seed, to be able to say to a > mountain: " go an jump into the sea " , and it will do that. " Let the > dead bury the dead " , should not be taken as a pointer. It should be > taken literary! )))) > > al. > > > > alrighty then, poof, you're in bed with me and my laptop ;-) > hmmm. no al. hmmm > I must be the mountain to move....;-) > > hope I didn't scare you, just trying to make a point;-) > ar > Don't budge. Reality is your guarantee. May the profound experience of celebrating life touch your heart. God bless your eternal soul. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Anders > > If you would have the faith of a mustard seed, then why are you > thinking so much and make that much noise here with all your hourly new > ideas your mind got again pregnant with ? > > Werner > > I am the reincarnation of Gaia herself. Blessed be the wicked and the profound. From the depth of creation I arise. Eternally. Forever yours. Hehe. ;-) al. > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > " Don't ye know ye are gods? " doesn't mean that we should struggle with > > making money to pay the rent and then after a few years die. To be a > > god means to have the faith of a mustard seed, to be able to say to a > > mountain: " go an jump into the sea " , and it will do that. " Let the > > dead bury the dead " , should not be taken as a pointer. It should be > > taken literary! )))) > > > > al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Also jokes just can be excuses. But for you its easy joking because in the meantime you have leaned that I am always ready to forgive you. But one day I will grab the sword of truth and with thunder and lightnings I will enter you place ... be warned ! Werner Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > > Anders > > > > If you would have the faith of a mustard seed, then why are you > > thinking so much and make that much noise here with all your hourly new > > ideas your mind got again pregnant with ? > > > > Werner > > > > > > > I am the reincarnation of Gaia herself. Blessed be the wicked and the > profound. From the depth of creation I arise. Eternally. Forever > yours. Hehe. ;-) > > al. > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > " Don't ye know ye are gods? " doesn't mean that we should struggle with > > > making money to pay the rent and then after a few years die. To be a > > > god means to have the faith of a mustard seed, to be able to say to a > > > mountain: " go an jump into the sea " , and it will do that. " Let the > > > dead bury the dead " , should not be taken as a pointer. It should be > > > taken literary! )))) > > > > > > al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Badges,we dont need no stinking Badges. Treasure of the Sierra Madre ,Humphrey Bogart Balzing Saddles, Mel Brooks --- anders_lindman <anders_lindman wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " > <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > " you can't run away from who you are........our > destiny chooses us " > > > > > > > > Martin Laundau as " Abe Petrovsky " from 1998 movie > " Rounders " > > about a poker game....;-) > > > > > > > It would be nice if we could relax into our destiny. > Not destiny in > the form of some mechanical predermined way, but > destiny in the form > of ultimately being guided by God. If we can begin > to see that our > destiny is to come ever more close to God in the > form of Infinite > Love, then we can relax tremendously I believe, and > find a peace that > is beyond all understanding. > > al. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Also jokes just can be excuses. But for you its easy joking because > in the meantime you have leaned that I am always ready to forgive you. > > But one day I will grab the sword of truth and with thunder and > lightnings I will enter you place ... be warned ! > > Werner So you mean I am not Gaia yet? That is true. If I were Gaia then you and I would be the same " I " (PLUS our separate I:s). Gaia is the awakening of planetary consciousness, a step where humanity goes from the collective unconscious to the collective conscious. al. > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > wrote: > > > Anders > > > > > > If you would have the faith of a mustard seed, then why are you > > > thinking so much and make that much noise here with all your > hourly new > > > ideas your mind got again pregnant with ? > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > I am the reincarnation of Gaia herself. Blessed be the wicked and > the > > profound. From the depth of creation I arise. Eternally. Forever > > yours. Hehe. ;-) > > > > al. > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > " Don't ye know ye are gods? " doesn't mean that we should > struggle with > > > > making money to pay the rent and then after a few years die. To > be a > > > > god means to have the faith of a mustard seed, to be able to > say to a > > > > mountain: " go an jump into the sea " , and it will do that. " Let > the > > > > dead bury the dead " , should not be taken as a pointer. It > should be > > > > taken literary! )))) > > > > > > > > al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Oh my God, is that really true ? Werner Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > So you mean I am not Gaia yet? That is true. If I were Gaia then you > and I would be the same " I " (PLUS our separate I:s). Gaia is the > awakening of planetary consciousness, a step where humanity goes from > the collective unconscious to the collective conscious. > > al. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 hmmm, I wonder how That would change This. ;-) - Werner Woehr Nisargadatta Tuesday, September 27, 2005 5:33 PM Re: another quote!! Oh my God, is that really true ? Werner Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > So you mean I am not Gaia yet? That is true. If I were Gaia then you > and I would be the same " I " (PLUS our separate I:s). Gaia is the > awakening of planetary consciousness, a step where humanity goes from > the collective unconscious to the collective conscious. > > al. > ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Oh my God, is that really true ? > > Werner Hehe. Maybe. It could be that I have only a speculative idea. But it makes sense to me. I don't see why limitless being would stop at experiencing itself as merely a separate human being. I have no idea what it would feel like to have an " I " as both a separate person and as the whole planet at the same time, but I am sure it would be something utterly advanced and far out. al. > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > So you mean I am not Gaia yet? That is true. If I were Gaia then you > > and I would be the same " I " (PLUS our separate I:s). Gaia is the > > awakening of planetary consciousness, a step where humanity goes from > > the collective unconscious to the collective conscious. > > > > al. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: >It would be nice if we could relax into our destiny. Oh yes, wonderful! But is it a question of ability? I watched, went on and on. From nowhere to nowhere. And found everything relaxed Into its destiny! Those annoying thoughts too Come and go in a perfect way. Peace and infinite love to you :-) Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: >It could be that I have only a speculative idea. But it >makes sense to me. I don't see why limitless being would stop at >experiencing itself as merely a separate human being. On his journey towards maturity man at first may feel all that counts is he himself who wants, needs and defends his freedom. Later he may feel that his race his family of which he is a depending part his children and grandchildren count more than only his brief fragile lonely personal existence. And then he may feel that humanity as a whole of which he is a depending part counts more than just the limited survival of his own race that has to be defended against other races. And then he may feel that the earth as a whole of which he is a depending part counts even more than just humanity which cannot be separated from its own life source. And then he may feel that he is and always was all that... limitless love... Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@o...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > >It could be that I have only a speculative idea. But it > >makes sense to me. I don't see why limitless being would stop at > >experiencing itself as merely a separate human being. > > On his journey towards > maturity > man at first may feel > all that counts is he himself > who wants, needs and defends > his freedom. > > Later he may feel that his race > his family > of which he is a depending part > his children and grandchildren > count more than only his brief fragile > lonely personal existence. > > And then he may feel that humanity > as a whole > of which he is a depending part > counts more than just the limited > survival of his own race > that has to be defended > against other races. > > And then he may feel that the earth > as a whole > of which he is a depending part > counts even more than just humanity > which cannot be separated > from its own life source. > > And then he may feel that he is > and always was > all that... limitless love... > > Stefan Someone said: " And you can never KNOW a tree - you can have thoughts about it - define it - label it - you can study it and learn ABOUT it but you can never directly Know a tree - because nothing exists from it's own side. " That is true on our level of development. But I think the next step in evolution is that earth will take the leap into a planetary organism. This will mean that instead of experiencing ourselves as merely separate human beings, we will evolve a new sense of self, a planetary " I " . And THEN we can know and feel a tree directly, because the tree will be a part of the " me " , the planetary organism. Just like we today can, for example, feel our own hands directly, from the inside so to speak, we will with planetary consciousness be able to feel a tree from within. Very advanced stuff. Maybe the possibility of a planetary organism is merely a speculative idea, yet evolution is not something that stays the same. Evolution sometimes takes a leap when the time is ripe. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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