[NonDualPhil] The Eternal Moment

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On Sep 28, 2005, at 7:13 PM, Wim Borsboom wrote:

 

> Pete wrote:

>> Black as ebony, as lacquer, but still

>> luminous as jade, like being asleep,

>> yet awake, like being nothing but

>> all well, consciousness without content

>> like the void before the Word. That's

>> how it felt: infinite, eternal without end.

>

> Wim: Yes, yes...!!!

>

> Luckily only the acute awareness faded, not the reality itself, not

> the experience within eternity: experiencing infinity moment by moment.

>

>

> By analogy, we may not be constantly and acutely aware that, say, on

> the physical level our bodies are constantly experiencing the process

> of 'digestion'. But does that mean that when we are 'not aware of it',

> that the digestive process halts, that it fades, that it can even go

> away and that as a consequence our bodily 'a s p e c t' is not being

> sustained anymore?

 

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> Likewise with what Pete brought into focus on the, so to say,

> 'metaphysical' level!!!

>

>

> What makes the difference?

> Knowing about the spell...

>

>

> * An association that was installed some eleven thousand years ago. I

> obliquely dealt with it in " The valley " .

> NonDualPhil --

 

P: Thanks, Win.

 

I think, it's worthwhile to underline here, the difference between

realization, and liberation. Under the umbrella of realization, we

could include mind events such as epiphanies, samadhies,

satories etc. These are breakthroughs of various intensities and

duration. They of course, frequently alter our mind , as many

events do. Take for example a blissful or traumatic sexual

encounter in our formative years. The bliss, or horror of it faded

in minutes or hours, but its effects permanently altered our mind

for good or bad.

 

So the fruition of realization could also be brief, yet enduring.

 

In another list, I wrote this about that.

Time an eternity are not exclusionary,

they share a concurrence beyond awareness.

It's like holding a CD in your hand, or

playing it. You can't do both at the same

instant, experience the totality of it, and

hear the music.

 

Maybe, a better example will be an old

fashioned record, on which you could see

all the grooves at one glance, but to

actually listening to the tune you would

have to hear one note at a time. Yet, the

musical piece is there as a whole both

ways, but its enjoyment could be only

experienced in time.

 

These events could lead us to liberation.

liberation is the freedom, the non-attachment

to mental events. Mental events: good, bad,

horrible, or sublime, come and go. And

liberation is allowing them to do so. A total

acceptance of both the impermanence of events,

and the impermanence of the witness as a memory

of such events, including those privileged

memories labeled, " my life. "

 

Such liberation from " my life " and " my point

of view " is the highest peak, which rarified

air few care to breath.

 

Pete