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Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming> wrote: > > Power_Of_Now/ > Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Yeah, its all so incredible powerful, and wonderful, and beautiful, this peace, this bliss, this glory of the endless moment which is pure Love - hahaha, I have read that shit a hundred times before. Why so often ? Because most people are childish and gullible idiots and Tolle is one of their recent candy-men. Werner Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming> wrote: > > Power_Of_Now/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > > Yeah, > > its all so incredible powerful, and wonderful, and beautiful, this > peace, this bliss, this glory of the endless moment which is pure Love - > hahaha, I have read that shit a hundred times before. Why so often ? > > Because most people are childish and gullible idiots and Tolle is one > of their recent candy-men. > > Werner yes....and because the truth can't be shared.....is indivisible....One...... this candy man also can't do anything for the " desire and wishes " of the " melting " hearts who read this wonderful book....about the " now " ....... Marc > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming> wrote: > > > > Power_Of_Now/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Conratulation Marc, Seems you are on the way to get a candy man too, or, which is same ugly, you are a life long candidate for candies In both cases, what a flop in respect to self-knowledge and seriousness. Werner Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > wrote: > > > > Yeah, > > > > its all so incredible powerful, and wonderful, and beautiful, this > > peace, this bliss, this glory of the endless moment which is pure > Love - > > hahaha, I have read that shit a hundred times before. Why so often ? > > > > Because most people are childish and gullible idiots and Tolle is > one > > of their recent candy-men. > > > > Werner > > yes....and because the truth can't be shared.....is > indivisible....One...... > this candy man also can't do anything for the " desire and wishes " of > the " melting " hearts who read this wonderful book....about > the " now " ....... > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > > <adithya_comming> wrote: > > > > > > Power_Of_Now/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > > Conratulation Marc, > > Seems you are on the way to get a candy man too, or, which is same > ugly, you are a life long candidate for candies > > In both cases, what a flop in respect to self-knowledge and > seriousness. > > Werner don't know what is your (personal) problem .... the candies don't work (anymore) for you.... maybe if you would loose the fantasie of being this ego minded Werner....maybe there would be a chance to write more interesting things.....about yourSelf..... and stop throwing (your) " shit " .....to this fictions of " others " ..... you could choose to have a conversation to Mickey Mouse...maybe the " understanding " would be better writing here...is writing to oneSelf...... Marc > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Marc, Let me tell what it means to be serious: Reading for example in non-dual literature that one is not the ego, not the mind, not the body and all that neti neti which is included and now because one has understood it one believes one is free and out of that ego illusion, but that is just wishful thinking, an illusion. I personally see that I am still stuck in that thing and reacting like a robot and therefore I also don't expect from others to be free of it, no matter how many no-dual books they have studied. Btw, that nonsense that there are no others I can prove you as crap: Just meet me and I will give you a blow on your nose that you will quickly get back down to earth. Werner Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > wrote: > > > > Conratulation Marc, > > > > Seems you are on the way to get a candy man too, or, which is same > > ugly, you are a life long candidate for candies > > > > In both cases, what a flop in respect to self-knowledge and > > seriousness. > > > > Werner > > don't know what is your (personal) problem .... > the candies don't work (anymore) for you.... > > maybe if you would loose the fantasie of being this ego minded > Werner....maybe there would be a chance to write more interesting > things.....about yourSelf..... > > and stop throwing (your) " shit " .....to this fictions of " others " ..... > you could choose to have a conversation to Mickey Mouse...maybe > the " understanding " would be better > > writing here...is writing to oneSelf...... > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Werner, ah....you seem to get more serious....and sincere.... yes....sometimes it take some time to just be oneself... ....you want to show me your ego-mind by giving me a " blow on my nose " ..... ....i know that your ego-mind is still there....don't worry.....no need a prove non-duality can't be " studied " in any book.....it only can be felt and " experienced " ....... sure, few books and scriptures have a more or less good " description " of It........ but without a quite mind and so the chance to meditate ....means going " behind mind " .....most of " insights and intiutions " about Self remain " a mystery " in fact....non-duality is what constantly IS....here and now......it's extremely simple....... too simple for complicated intellects..... to meditate is not only to keep the mind (intellect) quite.....but also to give endless love to what Is.....now....to Self.....to Brahman.....to Oneness......(depending the perception of things) it's no mystery that after some time of meditations.....the identification with ego-mind disappear..... (even if you don't believe me).... how to prove the fiction of your ego-mind? i think you only need to think about " birth and death " ....about " life itself " .......than " you " will slowly, maybe , " understand " ...that to keep your ego-mind......brings you everywhere...... but not to endless inner peace if you want to " wait " a lifetime to go behind your ego-mind.....thats your choice......nobody ever can take this choice for you... Regards and peace Marc > Marc, > > Let me tell what it means to be serious: > > Reading for example in non-dual literature that one is not the ego, > not the mind, not the body and all that neti neti which is included > and now because one has understood it one believes one is free and > out of that ego illusion, but that is just wishful thinking, an > illusion. > > I personally see that I am still stuck in that thing and reacting > like a robot and therefore I also don't expect from others to be free > of it, no matter how many no-dual books they have studied. > > Btw, that nonsense that there are no others I can prove you as crap: > Just meet me and I will give you a blow on your nose that you will > quickly get back down to earth. > > Werner > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Conratulation Marc, > > > > > > Seems you are on the way to get a candy man too, or, which is same > > > ugly, you are a life long candidate for candies > > > > > > In both cases, what a flop in respect to self-knowledge and > > > seriousness. > > > > > > Werner > > > > don't know what is your (personal) problem .... > > the candies don't work (anymore) for you.... > > > > maybe if you would loose the fantasie of being this ego minded > > Werner....maybe there would be a chance to write more interesting > > things.....about yourSelf..... > > > > and stop throwing (your) " shit " .....to this fictions > of " others " ..... > > you could choose to have a conversation to Mickey Mouse...maybe > > the " understanding " would be better > > > > writing here...is writing to oneSelf...... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Thanks Marc, For sharing your dreams about " what should be " and helping me to better understand how to be able dreaming like you. But, no need, I am already washed with all that spiritual, non-dual, pious, holy positivisms and I am dirty as ever and so I will tell you now: You must start with the dirt, with the ugly you don't want to see, you must start with all your fears and pains and sufferings, because that is what you are, and your dreamy, fluffy mind-world will just lead you astray. It is not given into your hands to get to the other shore, do what you want. You can tell yourself a thousand times and more that you already are enlightened and all that funny tricks - it won't work. Amen Werner Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > wrote: > > > > Werner, > > ah....you seem to get more serious....and sincere.... > yes....sometimes it take some time to just be oneself... > > ...you want to show me your ego-mind by giving me a " blow on my > nose " ..... > > ...i know that your ego-mind is still there....don't worry.....no > need a prove > > non-duality can't be " studied " in any book.....it only can be felt > and " experienced " ....... > sure, few books and scriptures have a more or less good " description " > of It........ > > but without a quite mind and so the chance to meditate ....means > going " behind mind " .....most of " insights and intiutions " about Self > remain " a mystery " > > in fact....non-duality is what constantly IS....here and > now......it's extremely simple....... > too simple for complicated intellects..... > > to meditate is not only to keep the mind (intellect) quite.....but > also to give endless love to what Is.....now....to Self.....to > Brahman.....to Oneness......(depending the perception of things) > > it's no mystery that after some time of meditations.....the > identification with ego-mind disappear..... > > (even if you don't believe me).... > > how to prove the fiction of your ego-mind? > > i think you only need to think about " birth and death " ....about " life > itself " .......than " you " will slowly, maybe , " understand " ...that to > keep your ego-mind......brings you everywhere...... > > but not to endless inner peace > > if you want to " wait " a lifetime to go behind your ego- mind.....thats > your choice......nobody ever can take this choice for you... > > Regards and peace > > Marc > > > > > > Marc, > > > > Let me tell what it means to be serious: > > > > Reading for example in non-dual literature that one is not the ego, > > not the mind, not the body and all that neti neti which is > included > > and now because one has understood it one believes one is free and > > out of that ego illusion, but that is just wishful thinking, an > > illusion. > > > > I personally see that I am still stuck in that thing and reacting > > like a robot and therefore I also don't expect from others to be > free > > of it, no matter how many no-dual books they have studied. > > > > Btw, that nonsense that there are no others I can prove you as > crap: > > Just meet me and I will give you a blow on your nose that you will > > quickly get back down to earth. > > > > Werner > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Conratulation Marc, > > > > > > > > Seems you are on the way to get a candy man too, or, which is > same > > > > ugly, you are a life long candidate for candies > > > > > > > > In both cases, what a flop in respect to self-knowledge and > > > > seriousness. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > don't know what is your (personal) problem .... > > > the candies don't work (anymore) for you.... > > > > > > maybe if you would loose the fantasie of being this ego minded > > > Werner....maybe there would be a chance to write more interesting > > > things.....about yourSelf..... > > > > > > and stop throwing (your) " shit " .....to this fictions > > of " others " ..... > > > you could choose to have a conversation to Mickey Mouse...maybe > > > the " understanding " would be better > > > > > > writing here...is writing to oneSelf...... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Werner, ah....you are already " wasjed " with ...whatever... i'm happy for your " enlightening " ..... i never told that i'm " enlightened " ....and i don't care about nothing is " given to one hands " ....i agree..... spiritual path is maybe most difficult path to choose your ego-mind cage seem to be very confortable...now...after you have been washed endless times.... yes...sure....it's necessary to throw the (own) " shit " (your prefered thought) out of this cage sometimes.......in order to " wash yourself " dear Werner...yes, we have nothing to share..... and you don't need to......wash " others " cages....because you even can't escape your ego-mind... Regards and peace Marc > Thanks Marc, > > For sharing your dreams about " what should be " and helping me to > better understand how to be able dreaming like you. > > But, no need, I am already washed with all that spiritual, non- dual, > pious, holy positivisms and I am dirty as ever and so I will tell you > now: > > You must start with the dirt, with the ugly you don't want to see, > you must start with all your fears and pains and sufferings, because > that is what you are, and your dreamy, fluffy mind-world will just > lead you astray. It is not given into your hands to get to the other > shore, do what you want. You can tell yourself a thousand times and > more that you already are enlightened and all that funny tricks - it > won't work. > > Amen > > Werner > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Werner, > > > > ah....you seem to get more serious....and sincere.... > > yes....sometimes it take some time to just be oneself... > > > > ...you want to show me your ego-mind by giving me a " blow on my > > nose " ..... > > > > ...i know that your ego-mind is still there....don't worry.....no > > need a prove > > > > non-duality can't be " studied " in any book.....it only can be felt > > and " experienced " ....... > > sure, few books and scriptures have a more or less > good " description " > > of It........ > > > > but without a quite mind and so the chance to meditate ....means > > going " behind mind " .....most of " insights and intiutions " about > Self > > remain " a mystery " > > > > in fact....non-duality is what constantly IS....here and > > now......it's extremely simple....... > > too simple for complicated intellects..... > > > > to meditate is not only to keep the mind (intellect) quite.....but > > also to give endless love to what Is.....now....to Self.....to > > Brahman.....to Oneness......(depending the perception of things) > > > > it's no mystery that after some time of meditations.....the > > identification with ego-mind disappear..... > > > > (even if you don't believe me).... > > > > how to prove the fiction of your ego-mind? > > > > i think you only need to think about " birth and > death " ....about " life > > itself " .......than " you " will slowly, maybe , " understand " ...that > to > > keep your ego-mind......brings you everywhere...... > > > > but not to endless inner peace > > > > if you want to " wait " a lifetime to go behind your ego- > mind.....thats > > your choice......nobody ever can take this choice for you... > > > > Regards and peace > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > Marc, > > > > > > Let me tell what it means to be serious: > > > > > > Reading for example in non-dual literature that one is not the > ego, > > > not the mind, not the body and all that neti neti which is > > included > > > and now because one has understood it one believes one is free > and > > > out of that ego illusion, but that is just wishful thinking, an > > > illusion. > > > > > > I personally see that I am still stuck in that thing and reacting > > > like a robot and therefore I also don't expect from others to be > > free > > > of it, no matter how many no-dual books they have studied. > > > > > > Btw, that nonsense that there are no others I can prove you as > > crap: > > > Just meet me and I will give you a blow on your nose that you > will > > > quickly get back down to earth. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > <wwoehr@p...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Conratulation Marc, > > > > > > > > > > Seems you are on the way to get a candy man too, or, which is > > same > > > > > ugly, you are a life long candidate for candies > > > > > > > > > > In both cases, what a flop in respect to self-knowledge and > > > > > seriousness. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > don't know what is your (personal) problem .... > > > > the candies don't work (anymore) for you.... > > > > > > > > maybe if you would loose the fantasie of being this ego minded > > > > Werner....maybe there would be a chance to write more > interesting > > > > things.....about yourSelf..... > > > > > > > > and stop throwing (your) " shit " .....to this fictions > > > of " others " ..... > > > > you could choose to have a conversation to Mickey Mouse...maybe > > > > the " understanding " would be better > > > > > > > > writing here...is writing to oneSelf...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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