Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 A NET OF JEWELS meditations 1 The universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is only the reflection of all the others in a fantastic interrelated harmony without end. 2 Self-Realization is effortless. What you are trying to find is what you already are. 3 Enlightenment is total emptiness of mind. There is nothing you can do to get it. Any effort you make can only be an obstruction to it. 5 If you but cease from useless conceptualizing, you will be what you are and what you have always been. 6 Seeing truly is not merely a change in the direction of seeing, but a change it its very center, in which the seer himself disappears. 10 The only ultimate understanding is that nothing is, not even he who understands. 14 For enlightenment to happen the perceiver must turn right around and wake up to the fact that he is face to face with his own nature - that HE IS IT. The spiritual seeker ultimately finds that he was already at the destination, that he himself IS what he had been seeking and he was in fact already home. 17 Concepts can at best only serve to negate one another, as one thorn is used to remove another, and then be thrown away. Only in deep silence do we leave concepts behind. Words and language deal only with concepts, and cannot approach Reality. 18 Between pure Awareness and Awareness reflected as consciousness there is a gap which the mind cannot cross. The reflection of the sun in a drop of dew is not the sun itself. 22 Ceasing to conceptualize means ceasing to perceive objectively, which means perceiving non-objectively. It is to see the universe without choice or judgement and without getting into subject-object relationship. What happens then? Nothing, except that you are what you were before you were born: everything. 24 When the apparent but illusory identity called a person has disappeared into the awareness of total potentiality that it is and has always been, this is called enlightenment. 25 Manifestation may adopt any number of forms but the substratum of all the myriad forms is Consciousness, without which there cannot be anything whatsoever. 28 Nothing can have any meaning, or even any existence, except in terms of something else. 29 The man of wisdom is devoid of ego even though he may appear to use it. His vacant or fasting mind is neither doing anything nor not doing anything. He is outside of volition, neither this nor that. He is everything and nothing. 30 Your doubts will never be totally destroyed until perception has gone beyond mere phenomenality, and such perception is not a matter of will but of Grace. 33 Only that which was prior to the appearance of this body-consciousness is your true identity. That is Reality. It is here and now, and there is no question of anyone being able to reach for it or grasp it. 34 The same Consciousness prevails at rest as the Absolute and in motion as duality. When the sense of " me " disappears completely, duality vanishes in ecstasy. 36 To any conceptual problem there cannot be any valid answer except to see the problem in perspective as an empty thought, and that there is no such thing as a " problem " which is other than merely conceptual. 37 An experience is never factual but only conceptual. Whatever an experience may be, it is nonetheless only a happening in consciousness. 40 The manifest phenomenal aspect of what we are and the unmanifest noumenal Absolute are not different. Phenomena are what we appear to be. Noumenon is what we ARE. 41 The essential basis of self-realization is the total rejection of the individual as an independent entity, whether it comes about as a spontaneous understanding or through an utter surrender of one's individual existence. Ramesh S. Balsekar ``````````` Era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Ramesh is full of desires, full of need to be a guru, full of need to exhibit his knowledge as you see in the books written by himmmmmmm , his body movements are rigid, maybe i am so critical, but who is talking? just some words flow, nobody is there, even ramesh but be carefull, ramesh as a phony guru will keep you in lethargic 'perfection'. sv.aha > A NET OF JEWELS > meditations > > 1 > > The universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in > which each is only the reflection of all the others > in a fantastic interrelated harmony without end. > > 2 > > Self-Realization is effortless. What you are trying > to find is what you already are. > 3 > > Enlightenment is total emptiness of mind. There is > nothing you can do to get it. Any effort you make > can only be an obstruction to it. > > 5 > > If you but cease from useless conceptualizing, you > will be what you are and what you have always been. > > 6 > > Seeing truly is not merely a change in the direction > of seeing, but a change it its very center, in which > the seer himself disappears. > > 10 > > The only ultimate understanding is that nothing is, > not even he who understands. > 14 > > For enlightenment to happen the perceiver must turn > right around and wake up to the fact that he is face > to face with his own nature - that HE IS IT. The > spiritual seeker ultimately finds that he was > already at the destination, that he himself IS what > he had been seeking and he was in fact already home. > > > 17 > > Concepts can at best only serve to negate one > another, as one thorn is used to remove another, and > then be thrown away. Only in deep silence do we > leave concepts behind. Words and language deal only > with concepts, and cannot approach Reality. > > 18 > > Between pure Awareness and Awareness reflected as > consciousness there is a gap which the mind cannot > cross. The reflection of the sun in a drop of dew is > not the sun itself. > 22 > > Ceasing to conceptualize means ceasing to perceive > objectively, which means perceiving non-objectively. > It is to see the universe without choice or > judgement and without getting into subject-object > relationship. What happens then? Nothing, except > that you are what you were before you were born: > everything. > > 24 > > When the apparent but illusory identity called a > person has disappeared into the awareness of total > potentiality that it is and has always been, this is > called enlightenment. > 25 > > Manifestation may adopt any number of forms but the > substratum of all the myriad forms is Consciousness, > without which there cannot be anything whatsoever. > > 28 > > Nothing can have any meaning, or even any existence, > except in terms of something else. > 29 > > The man of wisdom is devoid of ego even though he > may appear to use it. His vacant or fasting mind is > neither doing anything nor not doing anything. He is > outside of volition, neither this nor that. He is > everything and nothing. > > 30 > > Your doubts will never be totally destroyed until > perception has gone beyond mere phenomenality, and > such perception is not a matter of will but of > Grace. > > 33 > > Only that which was prior to the appearance of this > body-consciousness is your true identity. That is > Reality. It is here and now, and there is no > question of anyone being able to reach for it or > grasp it. > > 34 > > The same Consciousness prevails at rest as the > Absolute and in motion as duality. When the sense of > " me " disappears completely, duality vanishes in > ecstasy. > 36 > > To any conceptual problem there cannot be any valid > answer except to see the problem in perspective as > an empty thought, and that there is no such thing as > a " problem " which is other than merely conceptual. > > 37 > > An experience is never factual but only conceptual. > Whatever an experience may be, it is nonetheless > only a happening in consciousness. > > 40 > > The manifest phenomenal aspect of what we are and > the unmanifest noumenal Absolute are not different. > Phenomena are what we appear to be. Noumenon is what > we ARE. > 41 > > The essential basis of self-realization is the total > rejection of the individual as an independent > entity, whether it comes about as a spontaneous > understanding or through an utter surrender of one's > individual existence. > > Ramesh S. Balsekar > > > ``````````` > Era > > > > > > Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music./unlimited/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 There is no danger with Ramesh, After having read a book of his one is so fed up with it that one instinctively prefers watching tv or to visit Disneyland But I must admit that in the beginning he is very seducing with his perfect language and descriptions. He definitely has the ability to drill with words a hole in your head. Werner Nisargadatta , ales adamek <svahapraha> wrote: > > Ramesh is full of desires, full of need to be a guru, > full of need to exhibit his knowledge as you see in > the books written by himmmmmmm > , his body movements are rigid, maybe i am so > critical, but who is talking? just some words flow, > nobody is there, even ramesh > > but be carefull, ramesh as a phony guru will keep you > in lethargic 'perfection'. > > sv.aha > > > A NET OF JEWELS > > meditations > > > > 1 > > > > The universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in > > which each is only the reflection of all the others > > in a fantastic interrelated harmony without end. > > > > 2 > > > > Self-Realization is effortless. What you are trying > > to find is what you already are. > > 3 > > > > Enlightenment is total emptiness of mind. There is > > nothing you can do to get it. Any effort you make > > can only be an obstruction to it. > > > > 5 > > > > If you but cease from useless conceptualizing, you > > will be what you are and what you have always been. > > > > 6 > > > > Seeing truly is not merely a change in the direction > > of seeing, but a change it its very center, in which > > the seer himself disappears. > > > > 10 > > > > The only ultimate understanding is that nothing is, > > not even he who understands. > > 14 > > > > For enlightenment to happen the perceiver must turn > > right around and wake up to the fact that he is face > > to face with his own nature - that HE IS IT. The > > spiritual seeker ultimately finds that he was > > already at the destination, that he himself IS what > > he had been seeking and he was in fact already home. > > > > > > 17 > > > > Concepts can at best only serve to negate one > > another, as one thorn is used to remove another, and > > then be thrown away. Only in deep silence do we > > leave concepts behind. Words and language deal only > > with concepts, and cannot approach Reality. > > > > 18 > > > > Between pure Awareness and Awareness reflected as > > consciousness there is a gap which the mind cannot > > cross. The reflection of the sun in a drop of dew is > > not the sun itself. > > 22 > > > > Ceasing to conceptualize means ceasing to perceive > > objectively, which means perceiving non-objectively. > > It is to see the universe without choice or > > judgement and without getting into subject-object > > relationship. What happens then? Nothing, except > > that you are what you were before you were born: > > everything. > > > > 24 > > > > When the apparent but illusory identity called a > > person has disappeared into the awareness of total > > potentiality that it is and has always been, this is > > called enlightenment. > > 25 > > > > Manifestation may adopt any number of forms but the > > substratum of all the myriad forms is Consciousness, > > without which there cannot be anything whatsoever. > > > > 28 > > > > Nothing can have any meaning, or even any existence, > > except in terms of something else. > > 29 > > > > The man of wisdom is devoid of ego even though he > > may appear to use it. His vacant or fasting mind is > > neither doing anything nor not doing anything. He is > > outside of volition, neither this nor that. He is > > everything and nothing. > > > > 30 > > > > Your doubts will never be totally destroyed until > > perception has gone beyond mere phenomenality, and > > such perception is not a matter of will but of > > Grace. > > > > 33 > > > > Only that which was prior to the appearance of this > > body-consciousness is your true identity. That is > > Reality. It is here and now, and there is no > > question of anyone being able to reach for it or > > grasp it. > > > > 34 > > > > The same Consciousness prevails at rest as the > > Absolute and in motion as duality. When the sense of > > " me " disappears completely, duality vanishes in > > ecstasy. > > 36 > > > > To any conceptual problem there cannot be any valid > > answer except to see the problem in perspective as > > an empty thought, and that there is no such thing as > > a " problem " which is other than merely conceptual. > > > > 37 > > > > An experience is never factual but only conceptual. > > Whatever an experience may be, it is nonetheless > > only a happening in consciousness. > > > > 40 > > > > The manifest phenomenal aspect of what we are and > > the unmanifest noumenal Absolute are not different. > > Phenomena are what we appear to be. Noumenon is what > > we ARE. > > 41 > > > > The essential basis of self-realization is the total > > rejection of the individual as an independent > > entity, whether it comes about as a spontaneous > > understanding or through an utter surrender of one's > > individual existence. > > > > Ramesh S. Balsekar > > > > > > ``````````` > > Era > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Music Unlimited > Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > http://music./unlimited/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Who keeps whom in lethargic 'perfection'? --- ales adamek <svahapraha wrote: > " ........ramesh as a phony guru will keep > you in lethargic 'perfection' " > > sv.aha > > > A NET OF JEWELS > > meditations > > > > 1 > > > > The universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in > > which each is only the reflection of all the > others > > in a fantastic interrelated harmony without end. > > > > 2 > > > > Self-Realization is effortless. What you are > trying > > to find is what you already are. > > 3 > > > > Enlightenment is total emptiness of mind. There is > > nothing you can do to get it. Any effort you make > > can only be an obstruction to it. > > > > 5 > > > > If you but cease from useless conceptualizing, you > > will be what you are and what you have always > been. > > > > 6 > > > > Seeing truly is not merely a change in the > direction > > of seeing, but a change it its very center, in > which > > the seer himself disappears. > > > > 10 > > > > The only ultimate understanding is that nothing > is, > > not even he who understands. > > 14 > > > > For enlightenment to happen the perceiver must > turn > > right around and wake up to the fact that he is > face > > to face with his own nature - that HE IS IT. The > > spiritual seeker ultimately finds that he was > > already at the destination, that he himself IS > what > > he had been seeking and he was in fact already > home. > > > > > > 17 > > > > Concepts can at best only serve to negate one > > another, as one thorn is used to remove another, > and > > then be thrown away. Only in deep silence do we > > leave concepts behind. Words and language deal > only > > with concepts, and cannot approach Reality. > > > > 18 > > > > Between pure Awareness and Awareness reflected as > > consciousness there is a gap which the mind cannot > > cross. The reflection of the sun in a drop of dew > is > > not the sun itself. > > 22 > > > > Ceasing to conceptualize means ceasing to perceive > > objectively, which means perceiving > non-objectively. > > It is to see the universe without choice or > > judgement and without getting into subject-object > > relationship. What happens then? Nothing, except > > that you are what you were before you were born: > > everything. > > > > 24 > > > > When the apparent but illusory identity called a > > person has disappeared into the awareness of total > > potentiality that it is and has always been, this > is > > called enlightenment. > > 25 > > > > Manifestation may adopt any number of forms but > the > > substratum of all the myriad forms is > Consciousness, > > without which there cannot be anything whatsoever. > > > > > 28 > > > > Nothing can have any meaning, or even any > existence, > > except in terms of something else. > > 29 > > > > The man of wisdom is devoid of ego even though he > > may appear to use it. His vacant or fasting mind > is > > neither doing anything nor not doing anything. He > is > > outside of volition, neither this nor that. He is > > everything and nothing. > > > > 30 > > > > Your doubts will never be totally destroyed until > > perception has gone beyond mere phenomenality, and > > such perception is not a matter of will but of > > Grace. > > > > 33 > > > > Only that which was prior to the appearance of > this > > body-consciousness is your true identity. That is > > Reality. It is here and now, and there is no > > question of anyone being able to reach for it or > > grasp it. > > > > 34 > > > > The same Consciousness prevails at rest as the > > Absolute and in motion as duality. When the sense > of > > " me " disappears completely, duality vanishes in > > ecstasy. > > 36 > > > > To any conceptual problem there cannot be any > valid > > answer except to see the problem in perspective as > > an empty thought, and that there is no such thing > as > > a " problem " which is other than merely conceptual. > > > > > 37 > > > > An experience is never factual but only > conceptual. > > Whatever an experience may be, it is nonetheless > > only a happening in consciousness. > > > > 40 > > > > The manifest phenomenal aspect of what we are and > > the unmanifest noumenal Absolute are not > different. > > Phenomena are what we appear to be. Noumenon is > what > > we ARE. > > 41 > > > > The essential basis of self-realization is the > total > > rejection of the individual as an independent > > entity, whether it comes about as a spontaneous > > understanding or through an utter surrender of > one's > > individual existence. > > > > Ramesh S. Balsekar > > > > > > ``````````` > > Era > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 rameshæ teaching keeps earnest seeker in lethargic state of perfection so if you suddenly understand it, you must immediately leave ramesh and his teaching in order to feel a real natural state and be free as you are all the time --- Mila <makalm wrote: > Who keeps whom in lethargic 'perfection'? > > --- ales adamek <svahapraha wrote: > > > " ........ramesh as a phony guru will keep > > you in lethargic 'perfection' " > > > > sv.aha > > > > > A NET OF JEWELS > > > meditations > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > The universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels > in > > > which each is only the reflection of all the > > others > > > in a fantastic interrelated harmony without end. > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > Self-Realization is effortless. What you are > > trying > > > to find is what you already are. > > > 3 > > > > > > Enlightenment is total emptiness of mind. There > is > > > nothing you can do to get it. Any effort you > make > > > can only be an obstruction to it. > > > > > > 5 > > > > > > If you but cease from useless conceptualizing, > you > > > will be what you are and what you have always > > been. > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > Seeing truly is not merely a change in the > > direction > > > of seeing, but a change it its very center, in > > which > > > the seer himself disappears. > > > > > > 10 > > > > > > The only ultimate understanding is that nothing > > is, > > > not even he who understands. > > > 14 > > > > > > For enlightenment to happen the perceiver must > > turn > > > right around and wake up to the fact that he is > > face > > > to face with his own nature - that HE IS IT. The > > > spiritual seeker ultimately finds that he was > > > already at the destination, that he himself IS > > what > > > he had been seeking and he was in fact already > > home. > > > > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > Concepts can at best only serve to negate one > > > another, as one thorn is used to remove another, > > and > > > then be thrown away. Only in deep silence do we > > > leave concepts behind. Words and language deal > > only > > > with concepts, and cannot approach Reality. > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > Between pure Awareness and Awareness reflected > as > > > consciousness there is a gap which the mind > cannot > > > cross. The reflection of the sun in a drop of > dew > > is > > > not the sun itself. > > > 22 > > > > > > Ceasing to conceptualize means ceasing to > perceive > > > objectively, which means perceiving > > non-objectively. > > > It is to see the universe without choice or > > > judgement and without getting into > subject-object > > > relationship. What happens then? Nothing, except > > > that you are what you were before you were born: > > > everything. > > > > > > 24 > > > > > > When the apparent but illusory identity called a > > > person has disappeared into the awareness of > total > > > potentiality that it is and has always been, > this > > is > > > called enlightenment. > > > 25 > > > > > > Manifestation may adopt any number of forms but > > the > > > substratum of all the myriad forms is > > Consciousness, > > > without which there cannot be anything > whatsoever. > > > > > > > > 28 > > > > > > Nothing can have any meaning, or even any > > existence, > > > except in terms of something else. > > > 29 > > > > > > The man of wisdom is devoid of ego even though > he > > > may appear to use it. His vacant or fasting mind > > is > > > neither doing anything nor not doing anything. > He > > is > > > outside of volition, neither this nor that. He > is > > > everything and nothing. > > > > > > 30 > > > > > > Your doubts will never be totally destroyed > until > > > perception has gone beyond mere phenomenality, > and > > > such perception is not a matter of will but of > > > Grace. > > > > > > 33 > > > > > > Only that which was prior to the appearance of > > this > > > body-consciousness is your true identity. That > is > > > Reality. It is here and now, and there is no > > > question of anyone being able to reach for it or > > > grasp it. > > > > > > 34 > > > > > > The same Consciousness prevails at rest as the > > > Absolute and in motion as duality. When the > sense > > of > > > " me " disappears completely, duality vanishes in > > > ecstasy. > > > 36 > > > > > > To any conceptual problem there cannot be any > > valid > > > answer except to see the problem in perspective > as > > > an empty thought, and that there is no such > thing > > as > > > a " problem " which is other than merely > conceptual. > > > > > > > > 37 > > > > > > An experience is never factual but only > > conceptual. > > > Whatever an experience may be, it is nonetheless > > > only a happening in consciousness. > > > > > > 40 > > > > > > The manifest phenomenal aspect of what we are > and > > > the unmanifest noumenal Absolute are not > > different. > > > Phenomena are what we appear to be. Noumenon is > > what > > > we ARE. > > > 41 > > > > > > The essential basis of self-realization is the > > total > > > rejection of the individual as an independent > > > entity, whether it comes about as a spontaneous > > > understanding or through an utter surrender of > === message truncated === FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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