Guest guest Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 __________ Message: 4 Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:56:18 -0700 Pete S <pedsie4 Lessons in fake advaita [ivo Balbaert] - Waw ..., this is awesome! Why didn't I think of this before? [ivo Balbaert] Perhaps there is even inspiration here for a talented advaita stand-up comedian, or a TV-series: 'the advaita street', or 'in the advaita-family' or 'nondual adventures' (or perhaps they gave that allready i don't know anymore). Don't forget to instruct your word-processor not to capitalize the i's (as mine always does!). And finally with the merciless Werner Woehr, we are getting somewhere. Werner, I would like you as my pseudo-guru, please ;-) Much appreciation for the high gem-quality is this discussion-group. Greetings, Ivo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 You're right. There is a lot of disingenuous and superficial nonsense going on in the world of spiritual seekers. Hmmm..... In a message dated 10/23/2005 11:33:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, wwoehr writes: Ha ivo, If you are ready to instruct your word processor to write the " I " in lower case and my name too so that we can meet on an adequate level, then hmm, i will think about to become you pseudo-guru. But, maybe a handicap, i am not for free, Dollars (with upper case) let me smile. werner Nisargadatta , " Ivo Balbaert " <ivo.balbaert@c...> wrote: > > > > __________ > > Message: 4 > Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:56:18 -0700 > Pete S <pedsie4@e...> > Lessons in fake advaita > [ivo Balbaert] - > Waw ..., this is awesome! Why didn't I think of this before? > [ivo Balbaert] Perhaps there is even inspiration here for a talented advaita > stand-up comedian, or a TV-series: 'the advaita street', or 'in the > advaita-family' or 'nondual adventures' (or perhaps they gave that allready > i don't know anymore). Don't forget to instruct your word-processor not to > capitalize the i's (as mine always does!). > > And finally with the merciless Werner Woehr, we are getting somewhere. > Werner, I would like you as my pseudo-guru, please ;-) > > Much appreciation for the high gem-quality is this discussion-group. > Greetings, > > Ivo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Ha ivo, If you are ready to instruct your word processor to write the " I " in lower case and my name too so that we can meet on an adequate level, then hmm, i will think about to become you pseudo-guru. But, maybe a handicap, i am not for free, Dollars (with upper case) let me smile. werner Nisargadatta , " Ivo Balbaert " <ivo.balbaert@c...> wrote: > > > > __________ > > Message: 4 > Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:56:18 -0700 > Pete S <pedsie4@e...> > Lessons in fake advaita > [ivo Balbaert] - > Waw ..., this is awesome! Why didn't I think of this before? > [ivo Balbaert] Perhaps there is even inspiration here for a talented advaita > stand-up comedian, or a TV-series: 'the advaita street', or 'in the > advaita-family' or 'nondual adventures' (or perhaps they gave that allready > i don't know anymore). Don't forget to instruct your word-processor not to > capitalize the i's (as mine always does!). > > And finally with the merciless Werner Woehr, we are getting somewhere. > Werner, I would like you as my pseudo-guru, please ;-) > > Much appreciation for the high gem-quality is this discussion-group. > Greetings, > > Ivo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 " There is a lot of disingenuous and superficial nonsense going on in the world.... " Period. LW Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@A... wrote: > > > You're right. There is a lot of disingenuous and superficial nonsense going > on in the world of spiritual seekers. Hmmm..... > > In a message dated 10/23/2005 11:33:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > wwoehr@p... writes: > > Ha ivo, > > If you are ready to instruct your word processor to write the " I " in > lower case and my name too so that we can meet on an adequate level, > then hmm, i will think about to become you pseudo-guru. > > But, maybe a handicap, i am not for free, Dollars (with upper case) > let me smile. > > werner > > > Nisargadatta , " Ivo Balbaert " > <ivo.balbaert@c...> wrote: > > > > > > > > __________ > > > > Message: 4 > > Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:56:18 -0700 > > Pete S <pedsie4@e...> > > Lessons in fake advaita > > [ivo Balbaert] - > > Waw ..., this is awesome! Why didn't I think of this before? > > [ivo Balbaert] Perhaps there is even inspiration here for a > talented advaita > > stand-up comedian, or a TV-series: 'the advaita street', or 'in the > > advaita-family' or 'nondual adventures' (or perhaps they gave that > allready > > i don't know anymore). Don't forget to instruct your word- processor > not to > > capitalize the i's (as mine always does!). > > > > And finally with the merciless Werner Woehr, we are getting > somewhere. > > Werner, I would like you as my pseudo-guru, please ;-) > > > > Much appreciation for the high gem-quality is this discussion- group. > > Greetings, > > > > Ivo > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 * It seems easy to see it in others, but very 'difficult' to see in one's self? Nisargadatta , " leafwalker1069 " <Silver1069@h...> wrote: > > " There is a lot of disingenuous and superficial nonsense going > on in the world.... " Period. > > LW > > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@A... wrote: > > > > > > You're right. There is a lot of disingenuous and superficial > nonsense going > > on in the world of spiritual seekers. Hmmm..... > > > > In a message dated 10/23/2005 11:33:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > wwoehr@p... writes: > > > > Ha ivo, > > > > If you are ready to instruct your word processor to write the " I " > in > > lower case and my name too so that we can meet on an adequate > level, > > then hmm, i will think about to become you pseudo-guru. > > > > But, maybe a handicap, i am not for free, Dollars (with upper > case) > > let me smile. > > > > werner > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ivo Balbaert " > > <ivo.balbaert@c...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ > > > > > > Message: 4 > > > Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:56:18 -0700 > > > Pete S <pedsie4@e...> > > > Lessons in fake advaita > > > [ivo Balbaert] - > > > Waw ..., this is awesome! Why didn't I think of this before? > > > [ivo Balbaert] Perhaps there is even inspiration here for a > > talented advaita > > > stand-up comedian, or a TV-series: 'the advaita street', or 'in > the > > > advaita-family' or 'nondual adventures' (or perhaps they gave > that > > allready > > > i don't know anymore). Don't forget to instruct your word- > processor > > not to > > > capitalize the i's (as mine always does!). > > > > > > And finally with the merciless Werner Woehr, we are getting > > somewhere. > > > Werner, I would like you as my pseudo-guru, please ;-) > > > > > > Much appreciation for the high gem-quality is this discussion- > group. > > > Greetings, > > > > > > Ivo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 To see 'imperfections in others is to see it in " self " ... love, Ana - assiduity2004 Nisargadatta Monday, October 24, 2005 3:21 AM Re: Digest Number 2133 * It seems easy to see it in others, but very 'difficult' to see in one's self? Nisargadatta , " leafwalker1069 " <Silver1069@h...> wrote: > > " There is a lot of disingenuous and superficial nonsense going > on in the world.... " Period. > > LW > > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@A... wrote: > > > > > > You're right. There is a lot of disingenuous and superficial > nonsense going > > on in the world of spiritual seekers. Hmmm..... > > > > In a message dated 10/23/2005 11:33:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > wwoehr@p... writes: > > > > Ha ivo, > > > > If you are ready to instruct your word processor to write the " I " > in > > lower case and my name too so that we can meet on an adequate > level, > > then hmm, i will think about to become you pseudo-guru. > > > > But, maybe a handicap, i am not for free, Dollars (with upper > case) > > let me smile. > > > > werner > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ivo Balbaert " > > <ivo.balbaert@c...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ > > > > > > Message: 4 > > > Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:56:18 -0700 > > > Pete S <pedsie4@e...> > > > Lessons in fake advaita > > > [ivo Balbaert] - > > > Waw ..., this is awesome! Why didn't I think of this before? > > > [ivo Balbaert] Perhaps there is even inspiration here for a > > talented advaita > > > stand-up comedian, or a TV-series: 'the advaita street', or 'in > the > > > advaita-family' or 'nondual adventures' (or perhaps they gave > that > > allready > > > i don't know anymore). Don't forget to instruct your word- > processor > > not to > > > capitalize the i's (as mine always does!). > > > > > > And finally with the merciless Werner Woehr, we are getting > > somewhere. > > > Werner, I would like you as my pseudo-guru, please ;-) > > > > > > Much appreciation for the high gem-quality is this discussion- > group. > > > Greetings, > > > > > > Ivo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > To see 'imperfections in others is to see it in " self " ... > > love, > Ana Good morning, Very true. The world of thoughts in me is in me! When I think about other people then it is really my own thought-world I am looking at. This thought-world does of course have a correlation with " external " people and events, yet it is more or less an internal map in me. What I call having relationships with other people is in reality thoughts having relationships with itself. Strange. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > - > anders_lindman > Nisargadatta > Monday, October 24, 2005 5:13 AM > Re: Digest Number 2133 > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > To see 'imperfections in others is to see it in " self " ... > > > > love, > > Ana > > > Good morning, > > Very true. The world of thoughts in me is in me! When I think about > other people then it is really my own thought-world I am looking at. > This thought-world does of course have a correlation with " external " > people and events, yet it is more or less an internal map in me. What > I call having relationships with other people is in reality thoughts > having relationships with itself. Strange. > > al. > > > Good Morning Beloved, > > there is no-thing but relationship, > a commonality, > a bonding of words > made flesh, > and flesh speaking > these words. > > an uncommon > understanding. > > All is in Love > > > Ana > I guess by uncommon understanding you mean something that goes deeper than ordinary thinking. J. Krishnamuri talked endlessly about THINKING TOGETHER (almost shouting , and true relationship. He also said that when there is fear there cannot be love. I agree with you that all is in love, even fear, but fear has to be transcended I believe. Fear is a sort of love having got lost, or love PREVENTING itself from getting lost. So we " only " have to look at fear and move in the other direction. Through negating fear, the other is. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 - anders_lindman Nisargadatta Monday, October 24, 2005 5:40 AM Re: Digest Number 2133 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > - > anders_lindman > Nisargadatta > Monday, October 24, 2005 5:13 AM > Re: Digest Number 2133 > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > To see 'imperfections in others is to see it in " self " ... > > > > love, > > Ana > > > Good morning, > > Very true. The world of thoughts in me is in me! When I think about > other people then it is really my own thought-world I am looking at. > This thought-world does of course have a correlation with " external " > people and events, yet it is more or less an internal map in me. What > I call having relationships with other people is in reality thoughts > having relationships with itself. Strange. > > al. > > > Good Morning Beloved, > > there is no-thing but relationship, > a commonality, > a bonding of words > made flesh, > and flesh speaking > these words. > > an uncommon > understanding. > > All is in Love > > > Ana > I guess by uncommon understanding you mean something that goes deeper than ordinary thinking. J. Krishnamuri talked endlessly about THINKING TOGETHER (almost shouting , and true relationship. He also said that when there is fear there cannot be love. I agree with you that all is in love, even fear, but fear has to be transcended I believe. Fear is a sort of love having got lost, or love PREVENTING itself from getting lost. So we " only " have to look at fear and move in the other direction. Through negating fear, the other is. al. there are those who speak in presences there are those who speak of absences all is the presence and the absence of Love and those who would speak... and in this way only nothing is lost, having lost nothing... Ana ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > - > anders_lindman > Nisargadatta > Monday, October 24, 2005 5:40 AM > Re: Digest Number 2133 > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > > > - > > anders_lindman > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, October 24, 2005 5:13 AM > > Re: Digest Number 2133 > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > > > To see 'imperfections in others is to see it in " self " ... > > > > > > love, > > > Ana > > > > > > Good morning, > > > > Very true. The world of thoughts in me is in me! When I think about > > other people then it is really my own thought-world I am looking at. > > This thought-world does of course have a correlation with " external " > > people and events, yet it is more or less an internal map in me. What > > I call having relationships with other people is in reality thoughts > > having relationships with itself. Strange. > > > > al. > > > > > > Good Morning Beloved, > > > > there is no-thing but relationship, > > a commonality, > > a bonding of words > > made flesh, > > and flesh speaking > > these words. > > > > an uncommon > > understanding. > > > > All is in Love > > > > > > Ana > > > > I guess by uncommon understanding you mean something that goes deeper > than ordinary thinking. J. Krishnamuri talked endlessly about THINKING > TOGETHER (almost shouting , and true relationship. He also said that > when there is fear there cannot be love. I agree with you that all is > in love, even fear, but fear has to be transcended I believe. Fear is > a sort of love having got lost, or love PREVENTING itself from getting > lost. So we " only " have to look at fear and move in the other > direction. Through negating fear, the other is. > > al. > > > > there are those who speak > in presences > there are those who speak > of absences > > all is the presence and the > absence of Love > > and those who would speak... > and in this way only nothing > is lost, having lost nothing... > > > Ana > Love is probably always present, but heavily obscured by the shell of fear. One has to let that fear to point within oneself so that an effortless fire of love begins to shine from within. Then one can stay in that light and let it begin to dissolve the hardened shell of fear. The fear is the shell of the ego seed and is needed as a protection until love can be ignited within one's being. Then that love starts to crack the shell apart. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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