Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > > No Anders, > > For such a foolish idea you won't get the Nobel prize. But because it > is not the first time you mentioned that prize, I more and more > suspect you have the dream one day to get a candidate for it. Is that > the reason why you suffer so much from excessive thinking to very > soon make true your Nobel prize candidateship's breakthrough ? > > Are you suffering from the idea of being a nobody ? > > Werner Success in the form of fame, social status or respect can be amusing but is often a source of anxiety because people believe such things have intrinsic value. They do not. Only self-knowledge has any intrinsic value. When the present moment is experienced as freedom and peace, then there is intrinsic life quality. Otherwise there is only a neurotic time-bound mind restlessly struggling onwards in hope and fear, even when it has a Nobel prize to put on the wall. Are you afraid that you cannot understand consciousness? Is your mind desperately struggling with understanding consciousness and so frustrated that it even begins to tell itself that there is no such thing as consciousness, just to hold itself and its belief-system complete and intact? Is it so difficult for you to say that you don't know what consciousness is? Some people would rather die on the spot than admit: " I don't know " . al. > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > wrote: > > > > > > Consciousness is neither a thing nor a no-thing and it is > definitely > > > not a container - consciousness simply does not exist. It exists > only > > > as its content. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > How can content be aware of itself?! Preposterous idea. Don't expect > > to get a Nobel Prize for such foolish idea. > > > > al. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > I think of consciousness not as a thing, but as the " no thing " > that > > > > contains all things. So comparing consciousness to a flame of a > candle > > > > is like comparing a " no thing " with a " thing " . > > > > > > > > al. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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