Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Anders, I have no problems with not knowing WHAT consciousness is, but I am also not interested in WHAT it is because it simply doesn't exist. And everyone having a bit of brain will find out the same thing: Consciousness is its content. But please go on to find out WHAT consciousness is and I will give you a hint: Next time you see a rainbow then go there where it is touching the ground and start digging there. If you dig deep enough you will meet a little man living there and he will tell you WHAT consciousness is. And then you will win the Nobel prize. Werner Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > > > > No Anders, > > > > For such a foolish idea you won't get the Nobel prize. But because it > > is not the first time you mentioned that prize, I more and more > > suspect you have the dream one day to get a candidate for it. Is that > > the reason why you suffer so much from excessive thinking to very > > soon make true your Nobel prize candidateship's breakthrough ? > > > > Are you suffering from the idea of being a nobody ? > > > > Werner > > > Success in the form of fame, social status or respect can be amusing > but is often a source of anxiety because people believe such things > have intrinsic value. They do not. Only self-knowledge has any > intrinsic value. When the present moment is experienced as freedom and > peace, then there is intrinsic life quality. Otherwise there is only a > neurotic time-bound mind restlessly struggling onwards in hope and > fear, even when it has a Nobel prize to put on the wall. > > Are you afraid that you cannot understand consciousness? Is your mind > desperately struggling with understanding consciousness and so > frustrated that it even begins to tell itself that there is no such > thing as consciousness, just to hold itself and its belief-system > complete and intact? Is it so difficult for you to say that you don't > know what consciousness is? Some people would rather die on the spot > than admit: " I don't know " . > > al. > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Consciousness is neither a thing nor a no-thing and it is > > definitely > > > > not a container - consciousness simply does not exist. It exists > > only > > > > as its content. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > How can content be aware of itself?! Preposterous idea. Don't expect > > > to get a Nobel Prize for such foolish idea. > > > > > > al. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I think of consciousness not as a thing, but as the " no thing " > > that > > > > > contains all things. So comparing consciousness to a flame of a > > candle > > > > > is like comparing a " no thing " with a " thing " . > > > > > > > > > > al. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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