Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 In a message dated 10/25/2005 1:35:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, asimpjoy writes: * How these words are used and how they are being defined is always so confusing: .... Awareness, mind, and consciousness? * I was thinking that pure awareness is like a 'substratum constant', and that 'the mind' was ALL phenomena, and that consciousness was only a representation of individualized content??? What I see is that awareness is the 'I', all that IS, and consciousness arises from this pure, subjective awareness to form object, through which subjective awareness may be observed. This makes it possible for the 'I' to see the 'I'. This consciousness is necessarily ignorant of Self, or it could not form the illusion of 'other', but it is not other than awareness. In it's ignorance, consciousness seeks wholeness and creates a dream that corresponds to it's level of awareness of Self. This dream includes mind/body/ego and all phenomenality. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > > Anders, > > I have no problems with not knowing WHAT consciousness is, but I am > also not interested in WHAT it is because it simply doesn't exist. > > And everyone having a bit of brain will find out the same thing: > > Consciousness is its content. > > But please go on to find out WHAT consciousness is and I will give > you a hint: > > Next time you see a rainbow then go there where it is touching the > ground and start digging there. If you dig deep enough you will meet > a little man living there and he will tell you WHAT consciousness is. > And then you will win the Nobel prize. > > Werner > Ha! You are still scared shitless about admitting to yourself: " I don't know " . That's my guess. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Yeah! Like space, maybe. It's not there but...it is...sort of. Hard to wrap my brain around stuff like this. > " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr >Nisargadatta >Nisargadatta > [NonDualPhil] Re: Questioning Consciousness/Anders >Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:51:17 -0000 > >Consciousness is neither a thing nor a no-thing and it is definitely >not a container - consciousness simply does not exist. It exists only >as its content. > >Werner > > >Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " ><anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > I think of consciousness not as a thing, but as the " no thing " that > > contains all things. So comparing consciousness to a flame of a candle > > is like comparing a " no thing " with a " thing " . > > > > al. > > > > > > > _______________ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca & page=byoa/prem & xAPID=1994 & DI=1034 & SU=http://\ hotmail.com/enca & HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Are you two at each other again?!? Keep it up. It's very amusing. > " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman >Nisargadatta >Nisargadatta > [NonDualPhil] Re: Questioning Consciousness/Anders >Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:15:11 -0000 > >Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > > > > Anders, > > > > I have no problems with not knowing WHAT consciousness is, but I am > > also not interested in WHAT it is because it simply doesn't exist. > > > > And everyone having a bit of brain will find out the same thing: > > > > Consciousness is its content. > > > > But please go on to find out WHAT consciousness is and I will give > > you a hint: > > > > Next time you see a rainbow then go there where it is touching the > > ground and start digging there. If you dig deep enough you will meet > > a little man living there and he will tell you WHAT consciousness is. > > And then you will win the Nobel prize. > > > > Werner > > > > >Ha! You are still scared shitless about admitting to yourself: " I >don't know " . That's my guess. > >al. > > > _______________ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca & page=byoa/prem & xAPID=1994 & DI=1034 & SU=http://\ hotmail.com/enca & HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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