Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Q: What was there in Maharaj' s teaching that you find specially unique? RB: The uniqueness is that he asks you to do nothing. In fact, if somebody asks you to do something, there must be a 'you' to do something, is it not? And Maharaj's whole basic teaching was, " Everything that happens is a spontaneous functioning of Totality " . So, the 'you' really does not exist, you see. But, nonetheless, since there is a 'you', the 'you' has to be told, " You are That " . Ultimately the understanding would be that there is no 'you' and there is no 'That', and there is no 'me' and there is no 'That'. So there is no 'me' to become 'That'. 'That' is all there is! 'That' being Consciousness or Totality or God or whatever you call it. ................... Q: Why did Maharaj use terminology that was somewhat different from the accepted terminology, such as his use of 'Consciousness', the 'I am' or 'I amness', meant to represent the relative not the Absolute state of being? RB: Why not? If everybody uses the same terminology, then that terminology is not adequate. The answer to your question would simply be that Maharaj did not consider the existing terminology adequate for his purpose. Therefore he found it necessary to use his own terminology. Therefore, I keep repeating, whether you call it Consciousness or Totality or God or Supreme Power, it makes no difference to me. So long as you understand that there is no individual free will. So, in fact it is terminology which causes problems. Q: Did Maharaj give you any specific teaching or guidance? RB: No, the same thing happened with Ramana Maharshi. He repeatedly said, " I do not give individual teachings " . He said, " There is no one who has received anything more than what you have, even in a whole group " . So Maharaj, to the best of my knowledge, didn't give anybody any individual teaching. He just talked and whatever was said was received by each person according to the way he's been programmed and destined. ~~~~~~~~ love, Era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Took a long break from this forum. Are we still listening to this pussy hungry, sex starved rascal Ramesh, alias " Exploiter of Women " ? He and the rest of the gang ,(see www.strippingthegurus.com/index.html#stgtoc) are lucky to remain " outside " as legal technicalities have prevented the law from bringing them to justice as yet. These guys have not yet realised the complete vision. Their distortion of Maharaj teachings is that they emphasize only one side of Totality and I question if they really understand or tasted the core of their being - " Nothingness " , this Emptiness that Buddha refers to as " Anatta " . In fact who can understand " nothing " ? There is nothing to know or understand! What is required is a more comprehensive view, an integrated or " Middle view " : the integration of the relative (constrained by social codes of conduct) and (freedom of)the absolute. Nothing that includes everything. Even that statement is erroneous, rather there should be no distinction, no differentation or separation between nothing and something, Nirvana IS Samsara, Brahman Is the World. Come good -dave --- Era <n0ndual wrote: > > Q: What was there in Maharaj' s teaching that you > find specially unique? > > RB: The uniqueness is that he asks you to do > nothing. In fact, if somebody asks you to do > something, there must be a 'you' to do something, is > it not? > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Hi Dave, Thanks a lot for that " Stripping the Gurus " link. It is quite helpful to balance one's " positive " views gained through the usual uncritical sources. Werner http://www.strippingthegurus.com/index.html Nisargadatta , Dave Sirjue <davesirjue> wrote: > > Took a long break from this forum. Are we still > listening to this pussy hungry, sex starved rascal > Ramesh, alias " Exploiter of Women " ? > He and the rest of the gang ,(see > www.strippingthegurus.com/index.html#stgtoc) are lucky > to remain " outside " as legal technicalities have > prevented the law from bringing them to justice as > yet. > > These guys have not yet realised the complete vision. > Their distortion of Maharaj teachings is that they > emphasize only one side of Totality and I question if > they really understand or tasted the core of their > being - " Nothingness " , this Emptiness that Buddha > refers to as " Anatta " . In fact who can understand > " nothing " ? There is nothing to know or understand! > > What is required is a more comprehensive view, an > integrated or " Middle view " : the integration of the > relative (constrained by social codes of conduct) and > (freedom of)the absolute. Nothing that includes > everything. Even that statement is erroneous, rather > there should be no distinction, no differentation or > separation between nothing and something, Nirvana IS > Samsara, Brahman Is the World. > > Come good > -dave > > --- Era <n0ndual@w...> wrote: > > > > > Q: What was there in Maharaj' s teaching that you > > find specially unique? > > > > RB: The uniqueness is that he asks you to do > > nothing. In fact, if somebody asks you to do > > something, there must be a 'you' to do something, is > > it not? > > > > > > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Yeah, don't mention it. My pleasure to share critical thinking on these issues. Those interested can also browse the sample chapters from the text at the same the site: http://www.strippingthegurus.com/index.html Maybe we should start another thread on this matter ? -dave --- Werner Woehr <wwoehr wrote: > Hi Dave, > > Thanks a lot for that " Stripping the Gurus " link. It > is quite helpful > to balance one's " positive " views gained through the > usual uncritical > sources. > > Werner > > http://www.strippingthegurus.com/index.html > > > > Nisargadatta , Dave Sirjue > <davesirjue> > wrote: > > > > Took a long break from this forum. Are we still > > listening to this pussy hungry, sex starved rascal > > Ramesh, alias " Exploiter of Women " ? > > He and the rest of the gang ,(see > > www.strippingthegurus.com/index.html#stgtoc) are > lucky > > to remain " outside " as legal technicalities have > > prevented the law from bringing them to justice as > > yet. > > > > These guys have not yet realised the complete > vision. > > Their distortion of Maharaj teachings is that they > > emphasize only one side of Totality and I question > if > > they really understand or tasted the core of their > > being - " Nothingness " , this Emptiness that Buddha > > refers to as " Anatta " . In fact who can understand > > " nothing " ? There is nothing to know or > understand! > > > > What is required is a more comprehensive view, an > > integrated or " Middle view " : the integration of > the > > relative (constrained by social codes of conduct) > and > > (freedom of)the absolute. Nothing that includes > > everything. Even that statement is erroneous, > rather > > there should be no distinction, no differentation > or > > separation between nothing and something, Nirvana > IS > > Samsara, Brahman Is the World. > > > > Come good > > -dave > > > > --- Era <n0ndual@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Q: What was there in Maharaj' s teaching that > you > > > find specially unique? > > > > > > RB: The uniqueness is that he asks you to do > > > nothing. In fact, if somebody asks you to do > > > something, there must be a 'you' to do > something, is > > > it not? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > > > > > > > > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Nisargadatta , Dave Sirjue <davesirjue> wrote: > >Yeah, don't mention it. My pleasure to share critical >thinking on these issues. You are calling slander, disinformation and good old tradition of medieval inquisition " critical thinking " . Bravo. (BTW. I dont know anything about Balkesar and am not interested - but I know a lot about a few others mentioned there, and I must say, the style is simply... cheaper than cheap) LoLiLa Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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