Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 When I want you to feel better... .....I start hurting myself! *** When I want you to have... what I have... ....I start losing... that which I have. *** When I want you to be happy... ....I start feeling unhappy. .... When I want you to get peaceful... I lose my peace. When I want you to get enlightened... ............... **** When I try to connect to you... ....I lose connection with myself! **** When I want to make you understand 'who I am'... .....I lose touch with.... 'who I am'! **** When I feel like doing something for you... ....I start feeling uneasy that I can't really do anything for you. You are on your own... and, I can't change it. Is it Love.... Is it Care... ....or, is it Delusion! .... I don't know... but, whenever I try to do something for 'you' (the other) it results in pain... always for myself and sometimes, even for ...you! ..... When I do what I do just for me.... ....and, I know it fully! then, I am free! ..... is that Selfish... I don't know! But, this is how it is ... [for me]. ..... If I examine... I will only do it ever for Me! **** I love you ... ....and, I know, I am helpless and hopeless in doing anything 'for you'! .... To know it... ....is to do it for me! Yet, I can't help loving you... ....and, I am helpless there again! .... When I see you... It is Love! Yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 All my polls... All my questions... My answers... My posts.... ....are merely my attempt to know you. Who are you? How do you feel? How are you internally? .... But, no matter how much I try... I have always Failed! .... You remain a Mystery... A complete mystery! You are not Matthew, Pete, Joyce, Bobby, Toom, Anna, Durga, Onnikko... that much I know. .... What I ever come to know... is what you think. Even that is not true... what I ever come to know is... what you say. [and, even that is not true... what I come to know is.... what I think you said.] .... But, that is so superficial... It gets so much noisy... and, is so unnecessary. This is not what I wanted to know... I wanted to know you... ....and, I can't! And, I keep trying... .... maybe, I should stop... You are a mystery... ....and, you will remain so. I have tried to see from out... and, I even when I look within I find no... you! .... Maybe, I should just keep silent... maybe, I should not bother to say or ask. But, if I don't... will you then... know that I love you? .... But, do you know it even if say so...? I love you... ....and, I can't even express it! Helpless again... what do I do? ---- Yeah... let's have another poll! My misguided attempt! What do I do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 > > What do I do... > Wait for the apperception that you are not the doer.......and not even the one waiting. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 It is true... that I don't know anything... a flower, a rose, the sand, the soil... the lake, the drop of water... the sky, the falcon... all remains a complete mystery! .... and, the Infinite... the emptiness... the space... that feels just like " me " ... is the most mysterious of it all. I can't even see it! .... Yet, I feel... that the apple the eat... the air that I breathe... the rose that I breathe... the lake that I dip in... the water drop on my tong tip... I know them much better than I know You! .... In a way, I know you too... When I look into your eyes... and, you hold still! When I see that Infinite abyss... Or, when I hold your hand... or I just sit near you. Me and you quite... like everything else! .... Yet, the moment you speak... it gets destroyed! I don't know you anymore... I think, I think... yet, I can't find you in the words you said! .... I even argue with you... yet, in spite of all the arguing, debates... I still can't find you in what you said and me in what I said. What do I do? Do I keep mum...? Or, do I just pretend to play... and, know it is pointless! What do I do... Helpless Me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 But your desire to know 'other' is just your desire to know your Self, isn't it? And your frustration comes from your temporary inability to do so. Your love is the love of Self; the love of Truth. If all this is seen, and the longing is simply allowed to be what it is, does it make it seem less superficial? Phil In a message dated 11/2/2005 11:01:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: All my polls... All my questions... My answers... My posts.... ....are merely my attempt to know you. Who are you? How do you feel? How are you internally? .... But, no matter how much I try... I have always Failed! .... You remain a Mystery... A complete mystery! You are not Matthew, Pete, Joyce, Bobby, Toom, Anna, Durga, Onnikko... that much I know. .... What I ever come to know... is what you think. Even that is not true... what I ever come to know is... what you say. [and, even that is not true... what I come to know is.... what I think you said.] .... But, that is so superficial... It gets so much noisy... and, is so unnecessary. This is not what I wanted to know... I wanted to know you... ....and, I can't! And, I keep trying... .... maybe, I should stop... You are a mystery... ....and, you will remain so. I have tried to see from out... and, I even when I look within I find no... you! .... Maybe, I should just keep silent... maybe, I should not bother to say or ask. But, if I don't... will you then... know that I love you? .... But, do you know it even if say so...? I love you... ....and, I can't even express it! Helpless again... what do I do? ---- Yeah... let's have another poll! My misguided attempt! What do I do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2005 Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@A... wrote: > > > But your desire to know 'other' is just your desire to know your Self, isn't > it? It is not 'your' desire. And your frustration comes from your temporary inability to do so. It is not 'your' frustration. Your > love is the love of Self; the love of Truth. It is not 'your' love. > > If all this is seen, and the longing is simply allowed to be what it is, That is merely a more subtle attempt by the illusory self to control its make believe kingdom. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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