Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 In a message dated 11/4/2005 8:58:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: The world did not come into existence from the Reality. The latter is wholly unrelated to the former. And so, something outside of Reality created the world? Maybe I'm confusing my terminology. I though Reality referred to the Absolute, the Source of all phenomena. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 > Ramana: > The world did not come into existence from the Reality. > > The latter is wholly unrelated to > the former. > > > > And so, something outside of Reality created the world? Maybe I'm confusing > my terminology. I though Reality referred to the Absolute, the Source of all > phenomena. > > Phil > > Hi Phil, this is Ramana's terminology Chapter 1: Discrimination 2-Desirelesness (selected verses) 46. " The individual, the world and God are illusory creations in the Supreme Reality, like the snake in the rope, " knowing thus, be happy in unity with that blissful One, by dissolving the three in Him. 47. Self-Realization is non-appearance of the world as world and non-Self; desirelessness is the renunciation of it, realizing its illusory nature. (24) Here the distinction between the sage and the duly qualified Sadhaka is explained; the former has transcended relativity and hence does not see the world as world; to him the Self alone appears. The latter sees the world as we do, but has the conviction that the names and forms of which it consists, together with time, space and other elements that sustain its variety, are unreal. Desirelessness when based on such a conviction is likely to be more complete than when it is based on a knowledge of its futility as a means of happiness. Guru-Ramana-Vachana-Mala by " Who " , pages 11 to 13 ~~~~~~~~~ love, Era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 In a message dated 11/8/2005 9:41:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Ramana: > The world did not come into existence from the Reality. > > The latter is wholly unrelated to > the former. > > > > And so, something outside of Reality created the world? Maybe I'm confusing > my terminology. I though Reality referred to the Absolute, the Source of all > phenomena. > > Phil > > Hi Phil, this is Ramana's terminology Chapter 1: Discrimination 2-Desirelesness (selected verses) 46. " The individual, the world and God are illusory creations in the Supreme Reality, like the snake in the rope, " knowing thus, be happy in unity with that blissful One, by dissolving the three in Him. 47. Self-Realization is non-appearance of the world as world and non-Self; desirelessness is the renunciation of it, realizing its illusory nature. (24) Here the distinction between the sage and the duly qualified Sadhaka is explained; the former has transcended relativity and hence does not see the world as world; to him the Self alone appears. The latter sees the world as we do, but has the conviction that the names and forms of which it consists, together with time, space and other elements that sustain its variety, are unreal. Desirelessness when based on such a conviction is likely to be more complete than when it is based on a knowledge of its futility as a means of happiness. Guru-Ramana-Vachana-Mala by " Who " , pages 11 to 13 ~~~~~~~~~ love, Era Reality is unrelated to the world, but the world is a creation in Reality. Sounds like a pretty close relationship to me, but it doesn't 'matter'. Get it?.......Doesn't 'matter'.? ~ Thanks. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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