In The Mute Throat Of Body

November 7, 2005

In the mute throat of body

we

become as Gods,

a cosmic unfolding

a rapture of earth

we shed wings,

we shed thoughts of wings

And remember

heaven's

call,

earth weds glory

and relationship is born,

how

man and woman

fall into Spirit,

birth one another

In Love

Ana

November 7, 2005

Essence Of Jesus Preaching --- Real Saving

Merely by accepting the human incarnation (Jesus) as Saviour cannot save you. It

is told in the Bible that He came to save His people. Who are His people? They

are His beloved devotees. They follow His instructions. Jesus did not give

attention even to see His mother, when He was with His disciples. When a woman

shouted that the Mother of Jesus was blessed, Jesus did not agree and told that

blessed are those who followed His instructions. He says that one should leave

parents, wife or husband, children and must be prepared even to carry on his own

cross for the sake of Jesus. This means that one should be prepared to sacrifice

even his life. Therefore, it is a narrow path with thorns. Even to hear this

statement your mind is turmoiled with chaotic disturbance. That is the reason

why He says that He has come to give peace to you and that He is holding the

sword of knowledge in His hand. Therefore, you can be saved only when you reach

that state.

If you say to the Judge that you accept him as your saviour, will he save you

and cancel his judgement? If you say to the jailor that you will accept him as

your saviour, will he relieve you from the jail? Therefore, He saves only His

dearest devotees. He underwent, the suffering of His people only on the Cross.

He did not suffer for the sake of all the people and released all the people

from their sins. If such thing is done the justice is destroyed. The

administration becomes meaningless. When a devotee leaves everybody and

everything for the sake of such human incarnation and participates in His

service, such people are called as His people. Such devotees will never agree

for the crucification of the Lord for their sake. Therefore, real saving is only

at that stage.

Whether, it is Christianity or Hinduism the beginner cannot come forward if the

final stage is shown. In Hinduism the saints and in Christianity, the Popes,

fathers, brother and sisters who are dedicated to the Mission have left

everything and everybody for the sake of God. Actually such Holy saints only can

be saved since they stand according to His standards prescribed. But if this

fact is revealed no common man will come forward. It is the tradition of the

divine preacher to show the final result even in the first step. We say to the

schoolboy that if he goes to the school regularly and studies sincerely, he will

become the professor.

It is only encouragement. Does that mean that the boy will be appointed as

professor as soon as he finishes the schooling? He gets encouraged and studies

well in the school. Then he will go to college and university and study further,

then he will join as a lecturer, become reader and then finally become the

professor. Therefore, to attract the beginners such encouraging statements are

made, which need not be condemned as lies. When a lie does well, such a lie

cannot be the sin. Even if it is truth, if it harms it is a sin. We tell so many

lies to our children to encourage them and our aim is only their welfare and not

cheating them. Therefore, such statements should be accepted with reference to

the level of the devotees.

at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

surya

http://www.universal-spirituality.org

Anna Ruiz <nli10u wrote:In the mute throat of body webecome as Gods,a

cosmic unfolding a rapture of earth we shed wings,we shed thoughts of wings And

remember heaven's call, earth weds glory and relationship is born, how man and

woman fall into Spirit,birth one another

In Love

Ana

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November 7, 2005

Jesus, in his Christ incarnation, also spoke greater things we can do than he

has done.. Inferences not proselytized. 2000 odd years ago or now. Remember

how it was understood, how it was decimated as information is a factor in this

current stage of man. I am certain that Jesus came to break all laws, for he

was a law unto himself and issued forth declarations of Love one another as I

have loved you. The essence

of all love is peace. The essence of peace is love. I accept Jesus as my

brother, I accept my kinship with All There Is. I accept All there is as the

Source of All that was, all that will be. I am not in judgment for

I hold Peace and Love higher than law and judgment.

To say there is 'his' people and not is to be in direct opposition with what the

Christ-message is, what all saints and gurus from all religions/theosophies

conclude. An understanding of the inherent Oneness of All

Things in the consciousness of God, Christ Consciousness. There is no jail

except the ones that have been placed around us via the thought that someone

needs to die for us, we need to follow certain rules of behaviour before

........that all may or may not take place. The thought I need to be saved, to

follow some law proceeds the direct experience of peace, of love,

Jesus as was Buddha is/was a wayshower--I Am The Way. What dies is the separate

sense of self. What awakens, is someOne else. The Light of Consciousness the

Body Of One in the Spirit of non-separation.

Tell me if Jesus incarnated right here and now, how would he speak to the

relating mind of humanity 2000 plus years hence?

The only saving we need is from our own ignorance, our own thoughts of how we

need to be saved. Talk about selfishness, I want someone else to do my

suffering and dying? He is an example. How that looks

in our own lives is _____________how we fill in the blank.

I think therefore I am, (Descartes). I thought I was separate, therefore I was,

Ana's axiom.

And as soon as one understands Christ/Buddha Consciousness, one already has left

the world. The lie is ever in the beLIEf we hold, without ever considering how

that belief came about, or who believes.

Imo.

Thank you.

Ana

-

prakki surya

Nisargadatta

Monday, November 07, 2005 7:50 AM

Re: In The Mute Throat Of Body

Essence Of Jesus Preaching --- Real Saving

Merely by accepting the human incarnation (Jesus) as Saviour cannot save you.

It is told in the Bible that He came to save His people. Who are His people?

They are His beloved devotees. They follow His instructions. Jesus did not give