Guest guest Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 I don't like the word enlightenment. It's vague, it evokes fantastic expectations, but I think there is such thing as an enlightened point of view, a point of view that can clearly be reflected in words. It's a point of view which points to less rather than more: less beliefs, less reliance in conceptuality, less mental agitation. It's sole aim is to set the mind at easy, at peace. Peace with itself and the " world. " A peaceful mind inevitably will see unity, would perceive wholly. When you read something here which aims to multiply concepts, to acquire more beliefs, to make you feel more emotions, even those positive ones such as love and rapture, know that doesn't come from an enlightened view, or a mind at peace. It comes from the urge to acquire, to aspire at more, and more, and more. There is no peace in more, there is no end to more. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 In a message dated 11/7/2005 3:26:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: I don't like the word enlightenment. It's vague, it evokes fantastic expectations, but I think there is such thing as an enlightened point of view, a point of view that can clearly be reflected in words. It's a point of view which points to less rather than more: less beliefs, less reliance in conceptuality, less mental agitation. It's sole aim is to set the mind at easy, at peace. Peace with itself and the " world. " A peaceful mind inevitably will see unity, would perceive wholly. When you read something here which aims to multiply concepts, to acquire more beliefs, to make you feel more emotions, even those positive ones such as love and rapture, know that doesn't come from an enlightened view, or a mind at peace. It comes from the urge to acquire, to aspire at more, and more, and more. There is no peace in more, there is no end to more. Pete Possibly, peace has nothing at all to do with what is or is not experienced, and no filtering, selection or evaluation need be done at all. Peace is the total acceptance of whatever is occurring, without any such involvement at all. " Serenity is not absence from the storm, but peace within the storm. " But, yes, I agree that complexity is not the goal. Perhaps mental implosion ultimately has value? Hehe. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie4@e...> wrote: > > I don't like the word enlightenment. It's > vague, it evokes fantastic expectations, > but I think there is such thing as an > enlightened point of view, a point of > view that can clearly be reflected in > words. It's a point of view which points > to less rather than more: less beliefs, > less reliance in conceptuality, less > mental agitation. It's sole aim is to set > the mind at easy, at peace. Peace with > itself and the " world. " A peaceful mind > inevitably will see unity, would > perceive wholly. > > When you read something here which > aims to multiply concepts, to acquire > more beliefs, to make you feel more > emotions, even those positive ones such > as love and rapture, know that doesn't > come from an enlightened view, or a > mind at peace. It comes from the urge > to acquire, to aspire at more, and more, > and more. There is no peace in more, > there is no end to more. > > Pete ....on search for this " enlightened point of view " ? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 everything is 'enlightened'....since ever....and forever a confused mind can't " see " this.... by loosing the illusions......this enlightened 'everything' appear.... so the " Enlightened Point of View " is nothing else....but another wonderful illusion...... wish nice dreams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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