Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, May 31, 2009 12:47 PM > > Re: Fwd: Attachment > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > There's nothing separate from 'what's happening here now' to hold onto > > > 'what's happening here now'. > > > === > > > Non-conceptualy absolute is-ing. Nobady said that. > > > -geo- > > > > nobody notices nobady. > > > > could nobady speak louder? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > It is always screeming. > > -geo- > > > people attend to things that affect their state of being. > > if something screams, they run away, or try to get closer. > > they want to be able to react. > > > -- d -- The " state of being " is entirely subjective, and as such depends on attention. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > people attend to things that affect their state of being. > > > > if something screams, they run away, or try to get closer. > > > > they want to be able to react. > > > > > > -- d -- > > Why would people want to be able to react? Reaction is painful. if people didn't react.. to their hand touching a red hot poker.. it would be a hell of lot MORE painful.. than not reacting at all. that's why people want to be able to react. everything reacts. even plants react to the sun.. and bend towards it's presence. it helps them in nourishment by photosynthesis.. rocks and pebbles react to gravity. worms react to vibration. what the hell kind of world would be without reaction? no kind! it could not have evolved. i think your stretching the bounds of truth and reason. you just want to have something to say. no matter how ridiculous. ah.. don't react. it's likely to painful. and who'd want that huh? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, June 01, 2009 6:22 AM > Re: Fwd: Attachment > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > people attend to things that affect their state of being. > > > > > > if something screams, they run away, or try to get closer. > > > > > > they want to be able to react. > > > > > > > > > -- d -- > > > > Why would people want to be able to react? Reaction is painful. > > if people didn't react.. > > to their hand touching a red hot poker.. > > it would be a hell of lot MORE painful.. > > than not reacting at all. > > that's why people want to be able to react. > > everything reacts. > > even plants react to the sun.. > > and bend towards it's presence. > > it helps them in nourishment by photosynthesis.. > > rocks and pebbles react to gravity. > > worms react to vibration. > > what the hell kind of world would be without reaction? > > no kind! > > it could not have evolved. > > i think your stretching the bounds of truth and reason. > > you just want to have something to say. > > no matter how ridiculous. > > ah.. > > don't react. > > it's likely to painful. > > and who'd want that huh? > > .b b.b. > > Ah...that. So you are talking about the screaming of people? > -geo- the screaming of anything. reaction. pain. these are not " bad " . they are necessary elements of all life. reaction is the basis of everything. if there were no reactions occurring.. the universe as we know it.. illusory or not.. would simply never have come to exist. we wouldn't be posting on the non-existing internet. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, June 01, 2009 10:04 AM > Re: Fwd: Attachment > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, June 01, 2009 6:22 AM > > Re: Fwd: Attachment > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > people attend to things that affect their state of being. > > > > > > > > if something screams, they run away, or try to get closer. > > > > > > > > they want to be able to react. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- d -- > > > > > > Why would people want to be able to react? Reaction is painful. > > > > if people didn't react.. > > > > to their hand touching a red hot poker.. > > > > it would be a hell of lot MORE painful.. > > > > than not reacting at all. > > > > that's why people want to be able to react. > > > > everything reacts. > > > > even plants react to the sun.. > > > > and bend towards it's presence. > > > > it helps them in nourishment by photosynthesis.. > > > > rocks and pebbles react to gravity. > > > > worms react to vibration. > > > > what the hell kind of world would be without reaction? > > > > no kind! > > > > it could not have evolved. > > > > i think your stretching the bounds of truth and reason. > > > > you just want to have something to say. > > > > no matter how ridiculous. > > > > ah.. > > > > don't react. > > > > it's likely to painful. > > > > and who'd want that huh? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Ah...that. So you are talking about the screaming of people? > > -geo- > > the screaming of anything. > > reaction. > > pain. > > these are not " bad " . > > they are necessary elements of all life. > > reaction is the basis of everything. > > if there were no reactions occurring.. > > the universe as we know it.. > > illusory or not.. > > would simply never have come to exist. > > we wouldn't be posting on the non-existing internet. > > .b b.b. > > There is a screaming that is louder than the screaming of > " anyting " ...nonetheless > few hear it. > -geo- a roaring but no ululating. you have to not be there. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > people attend to things that affect their state of being. > > > > if something screams, they run away, or try to get closer. > > > > they want to be able to react. > > > > > > -- d -- > > Why would people want to be able to react? Reaction is painful. To try to avoid pain and loss, and have pleasure and gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > people attend to things that affect their state of being. > > > > > > if something screams, they run away, or try to get closer. > > > > > > they want to be able to react. > > > > > > > > > -- d -- > > > > Why would people want to be able to react? Reaction is painful. > > To try to avoid pain and loss, and have pleasure and gain. o shit! pleasure and gain exist ONLY by virtue of pain and loss. you cannot have the one without the other. don't be ridiculous. oh you can try and try and try and try.. and you can try to jump up to the moon too. what all that trying amounts to is NOT doing or having. why bullshit? ..b b.b. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, June 01, 2009 10:04 AM > > Re: Fwd: Attachment > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, June 01, 2009 6:22 AM > > > Re: Fwd: Attachment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > people attend to things that affect their state of being. > > > > > > > > > > if something screams, they run away, or try to get closer. > > > > > > > > > > they want to be able to react. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- d -- > > > > > > > > Why would people want to be able to react? Reaction is painful. > > > > > > if people didn't react.. > > > > > > to their hand touching a red hot poker.. > > > > > > it would be a hell of lot MORE painful.. > > > > > > than not reacting at all. > > > > > > that's why people want to be able to react. > > > > > > everything reacts. > > > > > > even plants react to the sun.. > > > > > > and bend towards it's presence. > > > > > > it helps them in nourishment by photosynthesis.. > > > > > > rocks and pebbles react to gravity. > > > > > > worms react to vibration. > > > > > > what the hell kind of world would be without reaction? > > > > > > no kind! > > > > > > it could not have evolved. > > > > > > i think your stretching the bounds of truth and reason. > > > > > > you just want to have something to say. > > > > > > no matter how ridiculous. > > > > > > ah.. > > > > > > don't react. > > > > > > it's likely to painful. > > > > > > and who'd want that huh? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Ah...that. So you are talking about the screaming of people? > > > -geo- > > > > the screaming of anything. > > > > reaction. > > > > pain. > > > > these are not " bad " . > > > > they are necessary elements of all life. > > > > reaction is the basis of everything. > > > > if there were no reactions occurring.. > > > > the universe as we know it.. > > > > illusory or not.. > > > > would simply never have come to exist. > > > > we wouldn't be posting on the non-existing internet. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > There is a screaming that is louder than the screaming of > > " anyting " ...nonetheless > > few hear it. > > -geo- > > > > a roaring but no ululating. > > you have to not be there. > > .b b.b. thunder silence that is not communicating anything. - d - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > thunder silence that is not communicating anything. > > - d - > > When that is there is no other to comunicate. > =geo- indeed. - d - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > thunder silence that is not communicating anything. > > > > - d - > > > > When that is there is no other to comunicate. > > =geo- > > indeed. > > - d - reprise: you got to not be there. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > thunder silence that is not communicating anything. > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > When that is there is no other to comunicate. > > > =geo- > > > > indeed. > > > > - d - > > > reprise: > > you got to not be there. > > .b b.b. > good one Bob! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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