Guest guest Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 In a message dated 11/20/2005 12:34:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: There is nothing to gain. Abandon all imaginings and know yourself as you are. Self-knowledge is detachment. All craving is due to a sense of insufficiency. When you know that you lack nothing, that all there is, is you and yours, desire ceases. - Nisargadatta Maharaj, posted to P: So what can we conclude from the above? a) Smoking is not a desire? b) He didn't know himself as he was? What I'm driving at is, enlightenment is not bsproof. So buyer beware of buying wholesale. Mind/ego/bodies desire. There are no enlightened mind/ego/bodies. There are no enlightened individuals. Enlightened awareness sees the body going about it's business as a part of the functioning of the totality of consciousness and claims no responsibility. There is no sense of doership as there is no volitional entity present in the human. It's a mechanism, and it doesn't cease to function when the self is recognized by the consciousness which witnesses through the body. If one seeks an enlightened person who doesn't experience the desire to urinate, it won't be found. However, it does raise an interesting question for me about the value of the teachings, since there is no responsibility claimed for this either. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 There is nothing to gain. Abandon all imaginings and know yourself as you are. Self-knowledge is detachment. All craving is due to a sense of insufficiency. When you know that you lack nothing, that all there is, is you and yours, desire ceases. - Nisargadatta Maharaj, posted to P: So what can we conclude from the above? a) Smoking is not a desire? b) He didn't know himself as he was? What I'm driving at is, enlightenment is not bsproof. So buyer beware of buying wholesale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 your post will only have meaning to those who view themselves to be people. to them you have said something.. to the rest, nothing. Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie4@e...> wrote: > > There is nothing to gain. Abandon all > imaginings and know yourself as you are. > Self-knowledge is detachment. All > craving is due to a sense of insufficiency. > When you know that you lack nothing, that > all there is, is you and yours, desire ceases. > > - Nisargadatta Maharaj, posted to > > P: So what can we conclude from the above? > > a) Smoking is not a desire? > > b) He didn't know himself as he was? > > What I'm driving at is, enlightenment is > not bsproof. So buyer beware of buying > wholesale. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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