Guest guest Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 horse, the mind is a khaleidoscope that constantly shifts and changes patterns. it is just as content to paint pornography as it is to illustrate the divine. while watching the mind available to me and seeing its uselessness, what possibly can interest me in your samsara- ridden garbage? are you offended now? what does your fickle mind say? intellectualism has no place with me, because i am not the mind. if it will make you feel better, i can compose a wholly sincere note thanking you for your insight and expressing my love for your words, - but praise or insult are only in the mind. how long will you be elated? how long will you be insulted? watch and see. love / and or piss off, rama Nisargadatta , " whitehorserides " <green1911@v...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " ramanama06 " <ramanama06> > wrote: > > > > > > ha. be quiet. > > > > > GOOD AM, > > ramana , i notice you lack the ability to speak perhaps it's type. > maybe you can identify with me. i have owned computors for 16 years > but just in the past year have i started using them and had to rely > on some typing skills, that i learned in the 60's in one year of high > school. But with practice i've gotten much better. Similarily with > speaking on this thing. > You too can learn, keep trying. God is always willing to help someone > who tries. > > The topic on this post was about flesh eating, but i would presume > that our friend Nisargatta was a vegetarian, and let the animals be. > > Not really a subject to debate amongst people on a spiritual path. > > Is that why you just said " ha be quiet " ? > > your friend in Her/Him > and of course of compassionate type, lol > What do the the Holy Prophets say? > > Ezekiel said, by the mouth of the Holy Spirit, " you eat flesh, ie > animals, and lift up your eyes to idols, do you think you will go to > heaven,? " that is but one verse then the Holy Spirit again speaks " > I have laid the laand most desolate for all their abominations " > > No doubt, God is the active principal of life and when you become one > with Him through the Holy Spirit, all good understanding manifests in > the infintessimal self and one becomes realized in the Absolute. Thus > Divine guidance leads that good son/daughter unto the good pastures > filled with all goodness and prosperity. > > All nonsense thinking and cruel divisive actions are stopped when > one's heart is purged from all sin desire. However, the foundation > for attaining this pure state is founded in the self's ability to > realize it's eternal nature, sat cit, ananda. > > This is difficult for most since thier is too much noise, ie > confusion circulating. Yherefore quiet is good for reflection, but > does not sustain. Maintenance is required, therefore the premise of > bhakti or (service and devtion) is the natural path for the souls. > > The conclusion is who to serve. That is God. > > Hoping you find a few more words to share with us. > > > True peace is not silent, true peace knows, sees and acts in God. > Meditation is popular in these days, b/c it's the beginning of > awakening the soul to it's true self. > > Perfect and pure love, is of course the 'active' principal of God. As > written " God is love. " Therefore " love your brothers and sisters as > you would yourself " is the greatest expression by the Holy Spirit " . > > And that will satisfy the soul,and Soul, as watering the root > satisfies the entire tree, so does service unto God satisfy God's > little parts. All of God's part's have the inherent qualities of God, > and ability to realize Him in truth. > > Jesus said " eat my words " and i repeat " take this and eat, it may be > bitter in your belly, but in time, sweet as honey in your mouth. " > > perhaps your quietness is good, it may imply an empty cup, now you > can fill it with fresh spring water, lol. > > let's see what else is going on in the chattering room? lol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 horse,the mind is a khaleidoscope that constantly shifts and changes patterns. it is just > as content to paint pornography as it is to illustrate the divine. while watching the mind > available to me and seeing its uselessness, what possibly can interest me in your samsara- > ridden garbage? are you offended now? what does your fickle mind say? intellectualism has > no place with me, because i am not the mind. if it will make you feel better, i can compose > a wholly sincere note thanking you for your insight and expressing my love for your > words, - but praise or insult are only in the mind. how long will you be elated? how long > will you be insulted? watch and see. > > love / and or piss off, > rama devi: ooooooooooo, he practices yoga > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " whitehorserides " <green1911@v...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " ramanama06 " <ramanama06> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > ha. be quiet. > > > > > > > > GOOD AM, > > > > ramana , i notice you lack the ability to speak perhaps it's type. > > maybe you can identify with me. i have owned computors for 16 years > > but just in the past year have i started using them and had to rely > > on some typing skills, that i learned in the 60's in one year of high > > school. But with practice i've gotten much better. Similarily with > > speaking on this thing. > > You too can learn, keep trying. God is always willing to help someone > > who tries. > > > > The topic on this post was about flesh eating, but i would presume > > that our friend Nisargatta was a vegetarian, and let the animals be. > > > > Not really a subject to debate amongst people on a spiritual path. > > > > Is that why you just said " ha be quiet " ? > > > > your friend in Her/Him > > and of course of compassionate type, lol > > What do the the Holy Prophets say? > > > > Ezekiel said, by the mouth of the Holy Spirit, " you eat flesh, ie > > animals, and lift up your eyes to idols, do you think you will go to > > heaven,? " that is but one verse then the Holy Spirit again speaks " > > I have laid the laand most desolate for all their abominations " > > > > No doubt, God is the active principal of life and when you become one > > with Him through the Holy Spirit, all good understanding manifests in > > the infintessimal self and one becomes realized in the Absolute. Thus > > Divine guidance leads that good son/daughter unto the good pastures > > filled with all goodness and prosperity. > > > > All nonsense thinking and cruel divisive actions are stopped when > > one's heart is purged from all sin desire. However, the foundation > > for attaining this pure state is founded in the self's ability to > > realize it's eternal nature, sat cit, ananda. > > > > This is difficult for most since thier is too much noise, ie > > confusion circulating. Yherefore quiet is good for reflection, but > > does not sustain. Maintenance is required, therefore the premise of > > bhakti or (service and devtion) is the natural path for the souls. > > > > The conclusion is who to serve. That is God. > > > > Hoping you find a few more words to share with us. > > > > > > True peace is not silent, true peace knows, sees and acts in God. > > Meditation is popular in these days, b/c it's the beginning of > > awakening the soul to it's true self. > > > > Perfect and pure love, is of course the 'active' principal of God. As > > written " God is love. " Therefore " love your brothers and sisters as > > you would yourself " is the greatest expression by the Holy Spirit " . > > > > And that will satisfy the soul,and Soul, as watering the root > > satisfies the entire tree, so does service unto God satisfy God's > > little parts. All of God's part's have the inherent qualities of God, > > and ability to realize Him in truth. > > > > Jesus said " eat my words " and i repeat " take this and eat, it may be > > bitter in your belly, but in time, sweet as honey in your mouth. " > > > > perhaps your quietness is good, it may imply an empty cup, now you > > can fill it with fresh spring water, lol. > > > > let's see what else is going on in the chattering room? lol > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 Nisargadatta , " ramanama06 " <ramanama06> wrote: > > > horse, > the mind is a khaleidoscope that constantly shifts and changes patterns. _____perhaps yours is, but ok i'll let you have those colourful illusions. it is just > as content to paint pornography as it is to illustrate the divine. while watching the mind ______the mind does not paint it receives information as a filing cabinet is used for fies. > available to me and seeing its uselessness, what possibly can interest me in your samsara- ______now interest is also not a function of the mind. > ridden garbage? are you offended now? what does your fickle mind say? ____mind does not speak it's simply reservoir_____now > intellectualism has > no place with me, because i am not the mind. ____ok , agree not the mind, now what >if it will make you feel better, ____feelings are not intellectualized nor stored info like mind, so if you are trying to appeal to my feelings, words are not the answer but are the means to realizing what you are. Just like meditation is not the answer but a practice to achieva an end. >i can compose > a wholly sincere note thanking you for your insight and expressing my love for your > words, ______That is not what i'm looking for, is praise for my words either. You are not hearing my words, being stuck thinking too much about what i am or what i'm not or who you are, in your own mental landscape with a fence around it and not able to let anyone or words in. - but praise or insult are only in the mind. how long will you be elated? how long > will you be insulted? Praise and insult or only in the mind of one who has put a value on them. Personally you cannot inslult me, nor i'm i inflammed by praise, because i have no knowledge and claim no credit to having any. i simply repeat what the Holy SAints Prophets said, and live in those words. One who lives like, sleeps like, eats like also can speak like, because by living like he understands their thinking and they too become an instument for the Holy Spirit that flows through, a purged spirit. He is dhira or unaffected by change. Do you undertstand? if not, you can ask and i'll expand on this. >watch and see. > > love / and or piss off, > rama ok whatever, do you make promises. or just need to go to the bathroom. lol Do you know what is love, rama? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 horse, if a filing cabinet can piece together the a`s, the z`s and the j`s in any configuration that it chooses and present those impressions out of context of the origional information, then a picture is painted entirely different from the origional context. because you have not taken the time to investigate yourself without presuppositions and concepts built on " knowledge " that you read, you no more than mimick the fancies of your " reservior " . you have nothing to share other than what you can repeat. we have to deeply understand the last statement. THIS is the crux of the problem in believing ourselves to be people amassing knowledge. for the sake of appearances i will name nisargadatta as my guru, but if all i can do is repeat the words of the story in sharing myself, i am no better than a parrot,- an insincere and lying parrot at that. i can read the words of maharaj, his descriptions of the ultimate, and drive myself into trances and visions based on those descriptions, but i am not the little man in the story. what is it to me to recreate an experience that is not mine? what benefit is it to me knowing myself in pretending that i am nisargadatta? these discourses between this supposed " you " and " i " are a tremendous bore and i care nothing for them, therefore i declare them over. do not waste your time responding. i will not read your posts. Nisargadatta , " whitehorserides " <green1911@v...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " ramanama06 " <ramanama06> > wrote: > > > > > > horse, > > the mind is a khaleidoscope that constantly shifts and > changes patterns. > > _____perhaps yours is, but ok i'll let you have those colourful > illusions. > > it is just > > as content to paint pornography as it is to illustrate the divine. > while watching the mind > > > ______the mind does not paint it receives information as a filing > cabinet is used for fies. > > > available to me and seeing its uselessness, what possibly can > interest me in your samsara- > > ______now interest is also not a function of the mind. > > > > ridden garbage? are you offended now? what does your fickle mind > say? > > ____mind does not speak it's simply reservoir_____now > > > intellectualism has > > no place with me, because i am not the mind. > > ____ok , agree not the mind, now what > > >if it will make you feel better, > > ____feelings are not intellectualized nor stored info like mind, so > if you are trying to appeal to my feelings, words are not the answer > but are the means to realizing what you are. Just like meditation is > not the answer but a practice to achieva an end. > > >i can compose > > a wholly sincere note thanking you for your insight and expressing > my love for your > > words, > > > ______That is not what i'm looking for, is praise for my words > either. You are not hearing my words, being stuck thinking too much > about what i am or what i'm not or who you are, in your own mental > landscape with a fence around it and not able to let anyone or words > in. > > > - but praise or insult are only in the mind. how long will you be > elated? how long > > will you be insulted? > > > Praise and insult or only in the mind of one who has put a value on > them. Personally you cannot inslult me, nor i'm i inflammed by > praise, because i have no knowledge and claim no credit to having > any. i simply repeat what the Holy SAints Prophets said, and live in > those words. One who lives like, sleeps like, eats like also can > speak like, because by living like he understands their thinking and > they too become an instument for the Holy Spirit that flows > through, a purged spirit. He is dhira or unaffected by change. > > Do you undertstand? if not, you can ask and i'll expand on this. > > >watch and see. > > > > > love / and or piss off, > > > rama > > > ok whatever, do you make promises. or just need to go to the > bathroom. lol > > > Do you know what is love, rama? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 Nisargadatta , " ramanama06 " <ramanama06> wrote: > whitehorse writes You didn't or couldn't respond to a simple question. Do you know what love is Rama? instead of wasting your time repeating nothing you should have simply stood up to the mound and given me your pitch. But it appears you don't even have a ball to pitch. And though i said i take no credit for what i say, you should take note that i'm far from a parrot. i have realized the Word of God and i'm making it palatable for modern contempory English ears to hear. What is coming from christian and judaism pulpits parrot without realizations, besides being manipulators and liars, for their right armed Government boys, just like it says in the Text. You have all failed to know that eastern so called guru's are forms of idolatry speaking of imaginay gods or 'not gods.' There is no homogenized God. Furthermore, your expression of recreating the little man in the story is not the teachings of the HOLY Prophets. You obiviously do not understand Prophet. One who can speak about the future and God will back Him up. That is the proof that God is God. and not some kind of negation of all ideas or some merging into lalala thinking land or the nothingland that your guru advocates. Non duality does not imply not thinking, it implies oneness in God. There is no duality when you only do what God pleases. Therefore i also advocate non dualism. You somehow have lost contact with truth, It appears you are a living hypocrite, since you are attempting to explain away what is before you with silly words and nonsensical impossiblities, such as vanishing or subraction theories that melt down to nothing. You are living, eating, sleeping ,talking, walking. All these things you do including attempting to change my perspective. So i can only imagine you do the same to others. So are you buiding up or tearing down? lol what ever . oh rama _________you should take rest, and try to disappear, no one will notice around you b/c there is nobody, and you might as well remember that if no one finds you, then you should be happy since you taught them or they were taught to not to care, it's not important. Have a nice trip fella, lol You make me laugh you guys. you should open the Bible in the middle and read of a heart that loves God, hears, sees and knows God in person as friend and most intimate lover. David is the central figure of the Bible and the key to unlock the door to all knowledge. He is the prophesied son, Prince of Peace and will set the record straight once and for All. What has escaped you is before you, but you have been lost to heathen pagan faiths, and wasted concepts of impersonalism. Notice how none of you are able to respond to what you are, or aspirants of. Mayavadi's and Nihilists, atleast when you meet people and they ask you what is your belief or teachings based on , you could have a truthful answer, " we are impersonlists, or nihilists or a combination of both. The truth shall set you free, start by being true to yourself. You are an eternal soul, co equal with God, Supreme Soul, in nature but not equal in quantity. It's a qualitative statement backed by the Holy Spirit, who is within you as your friend and confidant. Try that out for size and repent for your all sins, from whenever you where to yesterday, and wipe your slate clean and start to feel true freedom from all forms of subtle thought contaminations, even your funny kaleidiscope mind. lol listen up, if you bread the law, do you not fess up or do you try to lie about it. You catch your son stealing and he says it's ok Dad, it was nothing, LOLOL. i suppose he should not say sorry or repent? what planet are you teaching on? whitehorserides again, if you want more time, i'm always here to listen, like a good physician. horse, > if a filing cabinet can piece together the a`s, the z`s and the j`s in any > configuration that it chooses and present those impressions out of context of the origional > information, then a picture is painted entirely different from the origional context. because > you have not taken the time to investigate yourself without presuppositions and concepts > built on " knowledge " that you read, you no more than mimick the fancies of your > " reservior " . you have nothing to share other than what you can repeat. we have to deeply > understand the last statement. THIS is the crux of the problem in believing ourselves to be > people amassing knowledge. for the sake of appearances i will name nisargadatta as my > guru, but if all i can do is repeat the words of the story in sharing myself, i am no better > than a parrot,- an insincere and lying parrot at that. i can read the words of maharaj, his > descriptions of the ultimate, and drive myself into trances and visions based on those > descriptions, but i am not the little man in the story. what is it to me to recreate an > experience that is not mine? what benefit is it to me knowing myself in pretending that i > am nisargadatta? these discourses between this supposed " you " and " i " are a tremendous > bore and i care nothing for them, therefore i declare them over. do not waste your time > responding. i will not read your posts. > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " whitehorserides " <green1911@v...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " ramanama06 " <ramanama06> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > horse, > > > the mind is a khaleidoscope that constantly shifts and > > changes patterns. > > > > _____perhaps yours is, but ok i'll let you have those colourful > > illusions. > > > > it is just > > > as content to paint pornography as it is to illustrate the divine. > > while watching the mind > > > > > > ______the mind does not paint it receives information as a filing > > cabinet is used for fies. > > > > > available to me and seeing its uselessness, what possibly can > > interest me in your samsara- > > > > ______now interest is also not a function of the mind. > > > > > > > ridden garbage? are you offended now? what does your fickle mind > > say? > > > > ____mind does not speak it's simply reservoir_____now > > > > > intellectualism has > > > no place with me, because i am not the mind. > > > > ____ok , agree not the mind, now what > > > > >if it will make you feel better, > > > > ____feelings are not intellectualized nor stored info like mind, so > > if you are trying to appeal to my feelings, words are not the answer > > but are the means to realizing what you are. Just like meditation is > > not the answer but a practice to achieva an end. > > > > >i can compose > > > a wholly sincere note thanking you for your insight and expressing > > my love for your > > > words, > > > > > > ______That is not what i'm looking for, is praise for my words > > either. You are not hearing my words, being stuck thinking too much > > about what i am or what i'm not or who you are, in your own mental > > landscape with a fence around it and not able to let anyone or words > > in. > > > > > > - but praise or insult are only in the mind. how long will you be > > elated? how long > > > will you be insulted? > > > > > > Praise and insult or only in the mind of one who has put a value on > > them. Personally you cannot inslult me, nor i'm i inflammed by > > praise, because i have no knowledge and claim no credit to having > > any. i simply repeat what the Holy SAints Prophets said, and live in > > those words. One who lives like, sleeps like, eats like also can > > speak like, because by living like he understands their thinking and > > they too become an instument for the Holy Spirit that flows > > through, a purged spirit. He is dhira or unaffected by change. > > > > Do you undertstand? if not, you can ask and i'll expand on this. > > > > >watch and see. > > > > > > > > love / and or piss off, > > > > > rama > > > > > > ok whatever, do you make promises. or just need to go to the > > bathroom. lol > > > > > > Do you know what is love, rama? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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