Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 good am phil and marc, here's to ya, cheers i understand. and you have decided to accept the theory you are one with God. you're not alone. so besides that, what does that imply in your world? does it liberate your mind? Are you completely free in life now. Though you mention i look like a judge of others does that imply you are never judging? Since your physical make up is a product of nature are you free to be in nature, to eat nature to use nature and then it, you dissolves back to the nature, like garbage goes baack to earth you indicate that your mind dissloves back to the one. So since this is your belief then you would agree that to die or live is no different, since there is no life really? words are not really anything. So is it the concept of the ego or man that discovered varying used of sounds into languages to 'not communicate'? Is it simply a question of continuing the illusion of fulfilling illusion, as in one sense matter going through transition. Basically i understand you as saying that ''all you that are, is not'' and the body and mind are one, and go to the vanishing point. And this is perfect realization, correct? So my brother the atheist, who says there is no God it's all made up by man is more accurate in his assessment than i am in saying there is God? is that a fair reasoning? Because you essentially are saying that God is Not. Because if God was, is, or as is, then you would have to decorate Him with some attributes. And you can't do that, right. So all Holy Prophets, saints are fools, and the little hindu men who sat still with nothing, telling people that there is nothing is accurate. He came born to tell the entire world, and he is nisaga whodo? So i presume by your conclusion that all little children everywhere born should be looking at pictures of him and then beside him i presume is a blank canvas representing what you are and he is and all that is. So when do you think that should happen? i guess as the world turns, it doesn't? and i'm a fool and you are _00_. lol. Basically what's mine is your and what's yours is mine and there are none of ours because it's just an illusion , correct. And where do you guys live, i may want to put that to the test. including your invisible wife. LOLOL ok good am and welcome to phil's world!!!!!!!!! which is not! guests are marc, who is not and whitehorserides, that is. help me ___________________________oh LORD What have they done to my friends? Marc: you don't have friends, stop thinking friends, just be. Whitehorse : ok__________be____be what? Marc: being is just a word, never mind being_______just. whitehorse: Just? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 > hello the running horse, who told that " God is not " ....?..... who told that he/she is God...? if you would read the few messages.....in calmness......you would discover that you invent this your " illusions " of " who and what " we are.....or not.... God is there....at every moment of (what you call) life.....and what you call " world " ..... He is there for his (baby) childs, all the time...... the only thing what one need to do.....is opening the heart....and accept this His endless love.....and let Him care for everything.........and trust Him.........and also all the brothers and sisters.....because all are the children of God..... so....you could do the same......like all " others " ....take the hand of God....and follow Him....... there is realy no reason to make a big show........ to resist..... to try to be " closer " to God than your brothers and sisters.....to be " better " ......more beautiful.......more intelligent......more ....and more....and more....... please......go on ....on your path......and be sure....that we " all " do same........ then, maybe, if you realy follow " God " ....your heart......your inner voice....your intiutions......your desire for liberation...... then you could advance...... don't worry....there is place in heaven for all..... no need to fight for the best place..... and then....after a while.......you will discover " who and what " you are.....and are not.......even it's hard to discover (for an ego-mind) sure....but you need to advance.....there is realy no choice...... you will discover that you only live in this " illusion " of being.....white horse.....because there is the illusion of a " Marc " ....and " Phil " ...and " Mami " and " Daddi " ....and " cat " ....and " dog " ........ so your false identity is false because you only exist in the illusion of permanent change......even if you think that you are full time...and since birth .... " whitehorse " ..... this " whitehorse " change the identity at every moment......if " Marc " appear.......it change intime.....if you meet a nice women......it change intime the identity......... you have absolutly no control....even if you dream to have one..... so, please......discover you real identity.....the One....which is infinite......changless.......peaceful.....liberated...... to be one day.......a realized identity...... ......thats the path " God " is showing us all the time......... " God " is no more child....no more baby....... wish you to wake up..... Regards and peace Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > hello the running horse, > > who told that " God is not " ....?..... > who told that he/she is God...? > > if you would read the few messages.....in calmness......you would > discover that you invent this your " illusions " of " who and what " we > are.....or not.... > > God is there....at every moment of (what you call) life.....and what > you call " world " ..... > > He is there for his (baby) childs, all the time...... > > the only thing what one need to do.....is opening the heart....and > accept this His endless love.....and let Him care for > everything.........and trust Him.........and also all the brothers > and sisters.....because all are the children of God..... > > so....you could do the same......like all " others " ....take the hand > of God....and follow Him....... > > there is realy no reason to make a big show........ > to resist..... > to try to be " closer " to God than your brothers and sisters.....to > be " better " ......more beautiful.......more > intelligent......more ....and more....and more....... > > please......go on ....on your path......and be sure....that we " all " > do same........ > > then, maybe, if you realy follow " God " ....your heart......your inner > voice....your intiutions......your desire for liberation...... > > then you could advance...... > > don't worry....there is place in heaven for all..... > > no need to fight for the best place..... > > and then....after a while.......you will discover " who and what " you > are.....and are not.......even it's hard to discover (for an ego- mind) > > sure....but you need to advance.....there is realy no choice...... > > you will discover that you only live in this " illusion " of > being.....white horse.....because there is the illusion of > a " Marc " ....and " Phil " ...and " Mami " > and " Daddi " ....and " cat " ....and " dog " ........ > > so your false identity is false because you only exist in the > illusion of permanent change......even if you think that you are full > time...and since birth .... " whitehorse " ..... > > this " whitehorse " change the identity at every moment......if " Marc " > appear.......it change intime.....if you meet a nice women......it > change intime the identity......... > > you have absolutly no control....even if you dream to have one..... > > so, please......discover you real identity.....the One....which is > infinite......changless.......peaceful.....liberated...... > > to be one day.......a realized identity...... > > .....thats the path " God " is showing us all the time......... " God " is > no more child....no more baby....... > > wish you to wake up..... > > Regards and peace > > Marc > > marc just a note here. You would have done better to reply to my post and added your comments instead of making a new post. i hear your enthusiasm, but unfortunatley there's little i can say say. You seem to like your lala dream induced state of love. You would make a good candidate for the hippies of Haight Asbury street in San Fransico in the 60's. really. peace love and let live man, cool far out, and let's turn over and love some more. sorry, but those pill days are gone. we live in this world and there is a heaven in this world, it's a question of being in it and not of this world. And all your 'love talk' and just let God love you stuff, is to say the least, not really God. It's tinged with expectation, but i guess you can't hear that be overwhelmed with being in the 'one love' thing. so with that unless you can hear that then there is little i can add to help you see two. God and You. Not you and you. like love and love, like i said " those lovey dovey days are mired in illusion. " . there is a maturing of living in God and it's not independent but full of association, that knows how to love according to God, not acording to marc. your seem to not want to hear God, but hear marc and love, dove stuff. the whitehorse rides, just a name for the occasion marc, i'm not hung up on names. it just so happens to fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Nisargadatta , " whitehorserides " <green1911@v...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > hello the running horse, > > >yes....it seem that you slowly get little more conscient about reality.... if you want to fight....yes, please........the fight is INSIDE this your proud ego.... there is a day for everybody....to start with spiritual path (inner path)...... also for you, freak of loud words..... no choice.... if you would now...in the 21th century.....realy now.....this day and hours and minute........be aware of truth you would be free.....for an endless moment.... but you can't...... sorry about Regards and peace Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 " whitehorserides " <green1911 making life easier good am phil and marc, here's to ya, cheers i understand. and you have decided to accept the theory you are one with God. you're not alone. so besides that, what does that imply in your world? does it liberate your mind? Are you completely free in life now. Though you mention i look like a judge of others does that imply you are never judging? For my part, there is love here as being, which means there is no judgment of self or other (they are the same). There is negligible struggle in my life because there is little that I need, and so there is peace. As a result, there is much joy. Ego has positioned itself mostly as a passive observer because it knows it cannot win this game. There is.......a longing. This is as it should be for now. From that perspective of non-judgment, all of your judgment can be plainly seen, my friend. From that perspective of a sedate ego, all of your struggle to maintain yours can be seen. Knowing myself to be love, it's clear that you seek the embrace of love from outside yourself. Nothing has gone wrong. You spoke of the sword of Truth. It has meaning. There it is. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@A... wrote: > > > " whitehorserides " <green1911@v...> > making life easier > > good am phil and marc, > > here's to ya, cheers > > i understand. > > and you have decided to accept the theory you are one with God. > you're not alone. > > > so besides that, what does that imply in your world? > > does it liberate your mind? > > Are you completely free in life now. > > Though you mention i look like a judge of others does that imply you > are never judging? > > For my part, there is love here as being, which means there is no judgment > of self or other (they are the same). There is negligible struggle in my life > because there is little that I need, and so there is peace. As a result, there > is much joy. Ego has positioned itself mostly as a passive observer because > it knows it cannot win this game. There is.......a longing. This is as it > should be for now. > > From that perspective of non-judgment, all of your judgment can be plainly > seen, my friend. From that perspective of a sedate ego, all of your struggle to > maintain yours can be seen. Knowing myself to be love, it's clear that you > seek the embrace of love from outside yourself. > > Nothing has gone wrong. You spoke of the sword of Truth. It has meaning. > There it is. > > Phil > if one has something to share he looks for others to share it with. If other say i have the same to share then they two could get along. It's often referred to as chemistry, in this world. While chemistry is a mixture of chemicals and for argurment sake there could be many similar ingrediants so there is potential for some harmony, perfection doesn't have a mixture or blend it's always pure and perfect and stays the same. so what does one good son, sent son have in common with another. 1) they realize a common Father 2) they receive the same equal love 3) they are balanced and can understand each other, b/c agreeing to the same FAther 4) they can enjoy time together b/c of their similar interests. and on and on. so what is the point? You make a interesting point. You say i'm looking for love 'outside myself'. perhaps you could say i'm looking for love like others have as myself. When you get a frisbee, you search out someone to play, correct. one of like enthusism. Sharing is there, laughter, play, imagination, the spins and flavours of life can be seen even in a game of toss frisbee. Well b/c two share, it's easy to invite another one or even two into the mix and make a circle and share interchangebly even without sequence but the likeness is still there. Perhaps this is what is there outside myself. i have lived and i have been among many,played many games, but the past has gone and there's a new game being introduced. Not by me but by our Father who has decided to teach us His Game. It's not new, it's old but still fresh. Like a good old song that brings back fond memories there is a song being played all over again. It's the original song, It's God's song and it was first recorded by non other than Moses, his good son who desired to see His most intimate love and friend. So God played Moses a song and it was recorded and became a number one hit, even a bestseller. Well down through time as fate would have many songs came and replaced the number one hit, even used parts of it to make new hits. But God promised Moses one thing, He said " Moses, in the future I will cause you and the good friends & family to return and to play that song again for the entire world to hear. Many will buy that song, and listen to it and make it their melody and chorus and together their will be singing and dancing in the streets, there will be joy and song and all prosperity, that is My Promise, Moses. " So as it was said so it was recorded and so what is rerecorded in the last episode, of the hit single. John recorded it in the song of Revelation in lines 14:3 and 15:3 and then again in 5:9. That is the outside love that this soul seeks from the inside. It is one song one love and many who share in the joys of that song are in God's Promise and He in theres. That's the true game of love. There is non other that can ever be more rhythmic and full of colour and life, peace and joy but the joyous song as that one sung in prosperity of many friends, my friend. whitehorserides are free they are not filled with duplicity, they are playful, joyous and triumphant over all that be i like you, am just a rider Rev 19:11_____19:14 and out of his mouth 19:15 came the sword, to smite all nations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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