Guest guest Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 On Dec 2, 2005, at 5:49 AM, NondualitySalon wrote: > But, that is exactly, the Basic Ground, that basic > pervasive absence of all you can know. >>>> > > B: The first time I read this post I skipped over the > line, " ...that basic pervasive absence of all you > can know, " all too quickly. > > the pervasive absense of all you can know... > > " pervasive absence " is clear... simple awareness really. > > " absence of all you know " makes sense well enough... > the knowing is just the jumble in the way of simple > awareness... awareness is a *seeing through*... > that is its nature... it doesn't matter to awareness > whether there is a jumble there or not. > > But " absence of all you *can* know " ... that takes it > another step. As if to squeeze the last little drop > out of the DESIRE TO BE. > > The " castle-building " doesn't really have to end... > it doesn't matter at all. Being will spew its spurious > effusions of selfness every which-windwardly way... > and yet it must ultimately know (or must it?) that its > emptiness is the mulling of silence... > > for in the end, always, silence stares back in the > face of any folly, and the meagerness of being is > dwarfted in the vastness. > > > > Bill P: Hi Bill, So good to find you here too, and thanks for your postings at A2Z and Nis. It's true that castle building need not end, and doesn't, anyway. What ends is the taking of castles made of mental cards for ourselves. What ends is the feeling of being solid, like a chunk of lead sinking in an ocean of otherness. That feeling is replaced by the feeling of being ice floating in an ocean of selfhood. That sense that there is no where to sink or vanish that it wouldn't be self, that even death is Self. Pete > > > > NondualitySalon , Pete S <pedsie4@e...> wrote: >> >> Imagine, if you will, that you owned a magical >> piece of land, which had been cursed by a >> Green Peace genii. And this piece of ground >> wouldn't tolerate any house. You could build on >> it, and everything would look normal as long as >> you keep on working, but the minute you stop >> building, everything will vanish, as if by magic. >> >> So the only solution is to keep on building without >> respite, and making the edifice taller and taller, but >> knowing that it's an exercise in futility, because all >> will vanish as soon as you stop. >> >> Many would think no one would want such piece >> of land, but we all stand on one, It's our basic >> ground. A ground on which, we are constantly >> trying to build a separate self. A self which vanish >> the moment we stop adding thoughts, memories, >> emotions and activities to it. Most try to ignore >> this vanishing act. They fear the insight that the house >> is just a mental house of cards. They pretend the >> house is really there, and that the 'absence of house' >> they feel when stopping, it is not what they really are. >> >> But, that is exactly, the Basic Ground, that basic >> pervasive absence of all you can know. And if you >> don't like it, keep busy, keep thinking, keep building, >> but know, it's a case of, " you and I, building castles in >> the sky. " >> >> Pete >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 > It's true that castle building need not end, > and doesn't, anyway. What ends is the taking > of castles made of mental cards for ourselves. > What ends is the feeling of being solid, like a > chunk of lead sinking in an ocean of otherness. > That feeling is replaced by the feeling of being > ice floating in an ocean of selfhood. That sense > that there is no where to sink or vanish that it > wouldn't be self, that even death is Self. Yes... well said indeed. And the ice is ever-melting! re: What ends is the taking of castles made of mental cards for ourselves. There can be a lot of flotsam in the " sea of self " ... but it doesn't matter... it is no longer a " fly in the ointment " because it is *seen through*... as if somehow transparent. That sea you mention is awareness itself, and as such " sees through " because whatever is in it is *of* it... it is not that " we " see through, but that awareness does... and the distinction, awareness/we gets lost because whatever silly notions were deemed " us " have been " seen through " , are seen as merely flotsam... it is as if the entire " sea " is both the eye that sees and what is seen... It is really quite fun! Bill Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie4@e...> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 5:49 AM, NondualitySalon wrote: > > > But, that is exactly, the Basic Ground, that basic > > pervasive absence of all you can know. > >>>> > > > > B: The first time I read this post I skipped over the > > line, " ...that basic pervasive absence of all you > > can know, " all too quickly. > > > > the pervasive absense of all you can know... > > > > " pervasive absence " is clear... simple awareness really. > > > > " absence of all you know " makes sense well enough... > > the knowing is just the jumble in the way of simple > > awareness... awareness is a *seeing through*... > > that is its nature... it doesn't matter to awareness > > whether there is a jumble there or not. > > > > But " absence of all you *can* know " ... that takes it > > another step. As if to squeeze the last little drop > > out of the DESIRE TO BE. > > > > The " castle-building " doesn't really have to end... > > it doesn't matter at all. Being will spew its spurious > > effusions of selfness every which-windwardly way... > > and yet it must ultimately know (or must it?) that its > > emptiness is the mulling of silence... > > > > for in the end, always, silence stares back in the > > face of any folly, and the meagerness of being is > > dwarfted in the vastness. > > > > > > > > Bill > > P: Hi Bill, > > So good to find you here too, and thanks > for your postings at A2Z and Nis. > > It's true that castle building need not end, > and doesn't, anyway. What ends is the taking > of castles made of mental cards for ourselves. > What ends is the feeling of being solid, like a > chunk of lead sinking in an ocean of otherness. > That feeling is replaced by the feeling of being > ice floating in an ocean of selfhood. That sense > that there is no where to sink or vanish that it > wouldn't be self, that even death is Self. > > Pete > > > > > > > > > > > NondualitySalon , Pete S <pedsie4@e...> wrote: > >> > >> Imagine, if you will, that you owned a magical > >> piece of land, which had been cursed by a > >> Green Peace genii. And this piece of ground > >> wouldn't tolerate any house. You could build on > >> it, and everything would look normal as long as > >> you keep on working, but the minute you stop > >> building, everything will vanish, as if by magic. > >> > >> So the only solution is to keep on building without > >> respite, and making the edifice taller and taller, but > >> knowing that it's an exercise in futility, because all > >> will vanish as soon as you stop. > >> > >> Many would think no one would want such piece > >> of land, but we all stand on one, It's our basic > >> ground. A ground on which, we are constantly > >> trying to build a separate self. A self which vanish > >> the moment we stop adding thoughts, memories, > >> emotions and activities to it. Most try to ignore > >> this vanishing act. They fear the insight that the house > >> is just a mental house of cards. They pretend the > >> house is really there, and that the 'absence of house' > >> they feel when stopping, it is not what they really are. > >> > >> But, that is exactly, the Basic Ground, that basic > >> pervasive absence of all you can know. And if you > >> don't like it, keep busy, keep thinking, keep building, > >> but know, it's a case of, " you and I, building castles in > >> the sky. " > >> > >> Pete > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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