Guest guest Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming> wrote: > > Hi Ws, > > I find your communication style too > incompatible and I am unable to > comprehend much of what you wrote. > > So, in place of trying to answer > *what, I don't understand*, please > allow me to ask you few questions. > > > What is the meaning of? > > > 1. Kingdom of Heaven is amidst you! There is the son of God, or Holy Prophet, when he is sent and in the flesh as prophecy says, then the kingdom of heaven is amidst you. Why b/c he carry's the Word with him and his Word is non different than the Fathers. It is said , " one day with the son is likened to 1000 years. It's written and correlated to the 2cd advent and the association of being with the comforter, the prophecied son. The shortened time = the lenghtened time b/c that heart for the day feels completely liberated, in the association of the son b/c the son is not affected by any outside or material conditions, and his transparency is felt by those whose hearts are sincere in faith and trust. This cannot be experienced if one is very attached to carnal physical mind and perceptions. They too would have to be 'like angels, or saints atleast in a beginning stage. Another application of the kingdom is within you, implies the Holy Spirit, that is the expanded feature of God, as most intimate friend, confidant. Here is the delicate balance to be understood. Much of mayavadi, impersonalism is based on this idea of becoming that one. There is a trap in the neophyte stage of sprirtual realization which is this. The people of the world are brought up in carnal conscious. Various practices of yoga can cause the mind, the spirit to come to an experience of understanding it's not the body. Here's the catch or trap, gin, or snare, if you wish. Some experts are able to make the listeners or practitioners think through meditational techniques and repetition that they are the kingdom within. This is tactfully done, while the neophyte student experiences a sense of seperation between spirit and body and accepts the so called guru's words as truth and identifies with the experience through the intellect, in principal and process. The combination trips up the neophyte student and he remains content after attaining this state of so called awareness. What has actually happened is the beginning stage of realizing the true-self. In other words, it's like a first step in moving towards the perfection of yoga, or union =to yoke __with ___God. This is were the mayavadi stays and practices the perfection of aligning the self with the new experience and only rests satisfied when it's convinced it has become God. Once that state of oneness is attained in the mind, then complete liberation in that state of bliss is a constant experience in the one self. Hence, in external appearence the altered state impresses the neophyte, student. Who sees that the same is possible through compete surrender of the mind to the one to merge in that one. That is the kingdom within, for the mayavadi, which i had to explain here even though you asked me about ((my)) understanding of it. Now there are different types, or disciplines as i have mentioned elsewhere. This the essence of the thinking. The external activities will differ accordingly, but the claims are basically the same of experiencing the kingdom within. now to your ? ___as for the 'advanced stage' or understanding the 'kingdom within' as i know and live it, it is one of respect and appreciation, communication. Therein a loving intimate bond, realized as eternal friendship, marriage of trust, truth and perfect faith between 'two' as in the pure, unconditional and without motive or expectation. As well as the experince of that relationship, there exists simultaneously a love towards the external manifested expression of the Whole. Therefore the respect and appreciation is also outside the self and looks to the majesty of the Whole. Now this permits another feature of the manifested God to reveal Himself asthrough Divine synchronization in a personal way that is experienced through the perfected senses of touch, taste, sight, smell, and hearing. This is not possible by the impersonalist b/c of limited sense of accepting and b/c of the trap of becoming one as, or is, therefore restricting the experience the other. Though some disciplines want to claim differently, they actually cannot get God's assocition b/c they merge the experience as all is one. This is the blanket, or expression that covers, or satisfy's that thought. Basically this can be summed up as one who is blocked and will not allow another opinion to change his way of thnking. Not allowing the outside in but seeing the outside as an expansion of what's in. Therefore once in the the drop merges into the ocean, he's always in the ocean. Conversly since the personalist or lover, friend of God lives in and with God as in a Mansion, he experiences the differences by feeling perfectly secure living in the prosperity so designed by the Maker, which includes all others who also have a similar Father son/daughter relationship, hence a family of loved ones inclined to sharing caring and giving, playing , laughing and all in perfect love without any sense of envy, hate, jealousy, frustration, anger. Because the experince is shared it's selfless and the selfless giving feeling is the true freedom feeling of living in the Kingdom. God does not demand of anything except to expect your love without motive. Just as He freely distributes, rain, food, and all beauty and amnenties. The son who lives in the kingdom or experinces the kingdom within, is also convinced of the kingdom without seeing the complete loving hand of the Father in His manifested creation, loving equally. i could go on and on but that should suffice for now. > > 2. Meek shall inherit earth! As it is written the meek are not people walking around with head down acting in some humble like manner, not being offensive and such. But the meek are those whose hearts are patiently awaiting the sons return with complete faith and conviction. Then upon the arrival of such, the 'ready hearts' are changed and the existing trust and faith turns into 'meekness' by the admission of being an elected, son/daughter through the transmition of acting upon God's spoken Word. There are many ways to say the same, here's one. The key is written in the Text, it is not external appearence but the internal heart, that is obliged to the Will of the Father. It does not have anything to do with net worth or conditions of life. As it is said " the son shall not come to bring peace ( referring to extenal) but shall cause divisions among you, father against son, mother against daughter and so on, b/c 'the meek' are scattered in all different cultures and families. According to the Text the 2 cd advent is a time of prosperity, first implying the many who will be chosen or the meek, a number of 144, 000 is written, but it's simply a fuigure of speech. There are millions currently in the world whose hearts are ready hearts to embrace God in full as with the son, David as he is as the lion of juda standing in the midst. That too is the kingdom of God amidst. Your reference read Rev ch 5 and the appearence of David, confirmed by Jesus as in Rev 22:16 as one in the same. > > 3. I, father and the Holy spirit are one! This has been labelled as the 'trinity' packaged by the PHD boys. But the label is not exactly correct. Though there are minor differences among the christendom, it's still part of the over all blah blah blah. i noticed you wrote i, father,_____what's this the impersonal trip up or tricked up way of making it all sound like everybody is one. Something like your 'kingdom of heaven is 'amidst' you'. booth are new to me, but i'm sure you've got your reasons, or some bogus translation or motive. Then again, you may not since you signed with warm regards. Anyways here it is, in the conventional way. The conventional writing is " I and the father are one' and 'Father, son and the Holy Spirit',as some trinity. all one and equally the same. which implies Jesus was fully God and nothing less. However, this expression is always faved with the words of Jesus himself repeating that His FAther in Heaven, the Spirit, was greater than him. That you life would be left to the Father ultimately to be delt with and amny other expressions that imply himslef as sent from and one in word. Another expression taken out of context is ' if you have seen me you have seen the Father' However, the 'seen' is not physical but is used in the context of 'to understand' his words. The three is an agreement as one in that the son appears for the Father, for He never comes personally, unlike some eastern mythology teachings, but in the prescence of all, as a risen or raised son from the world or conditioned world or spritually dead world. But as you read of all the Holy Prophets the time of their anointing is by God and can be anywhere from childhood to late adult years. The transformed , born again, anointed has no set age fixed to it because time is irrelevent in eternal time, and as the expression goes 'it's neve too late'. now back to the i, the father the holy spirit are one, is as i gave a brief in the first response to 'kingdom of heaven amist'. The oneness is a full realization and experince of the self amist the Self in union and harmony. You see without seperation there can be no loving exchange, love is a genuine exchange between two. you never become your spouse or best friend but by much association you learn each others habits, thinking patters and a certain alignment or onesness can appear within the thinking process, but you never become that person. Likewise you never become God, but can become like God, as Jesus 'said become like gods', though he repeated the OlD Testament. Jesus never added anything new, This is a big front by the PHD theologians about the mystery's of Jesus. He was not adding anthing, he just used his owm language and then modern day expressions to explain what was allready written, spoken by the Holy Spirit before. A simple analogy is, if you repeat what he teacher has said 2+2 =4 then that is perfect. you can say you are one with the teacher. However, as mentioned here parroting is nothing, i agree, parroting can not change your heart. Neither can vain repetitions, however the like could cause a self induced kind of blandishing of the mind by using euphonical sounds to calm the spirit. Again a neophyte stage of coming to terms with spirit- mind awareness. mantra meditation, hare krishnas speciality. lol. However, the unique characteristics of i, Father, Holy Spirit, is how i 've written it as i, being less than, still equal to in eternal make up, whereas to say humility and respectful of my infintessimal state, but through complete humility and submission to the Perfect Source, God. Then you can be taken up by the presence of the manifested Holy Spirit and the Father if your desire is pure and without any tinge of desire for any profit, recognition, adoration. God does not need any profit He owns all, he doesn't need recognition because He is all, He doesn't need adoration b/c He is immensely loved by His family and friends, angels. All He does is provide freely all the goodness to maintain a loving intimate bonding relationship, with Him and His family and friends. Therefore son is the same, Holy sons like Father, do not need anthing, they have all, b/c they are on the inside of the family/friendship circle through perfect love. They experience this love 24/7 and are unaffected by change knowing their eternal realtionship ie the perfection of all yoga, or unifying in God. Hence they have victory over death implying not only the death of the physical but of all the effects or the carnal forces in and around them, both personal and external. this is the understanding of i, FAther, Holy Spirit. There is perfect detachment and attachment simultaneously and all thought and action are congruent in One. Therefore the intelligence of the individual is collapsed and the all action is one in harmony and peace and will never transgress another. therefore sinless, or without sin, or without spot, or without blemish Purge your mind from all sin desire, God does not have sin desire, therefore the perfectional state of oneness is a 'harmony with' not a 'merging into' as your impersonalists portend. Once free from identifying with the self as a part of anything or even becoming it which is in a sense a part of God. You look to realize the self as servant. The souls make up is of eternal love, the character of love in it's pure state as i said before is God the all giving loving Father. So Jesus said i'm your servant, i'm messenger, not God the Father, but as god the son. therefere you can now understand the name of Jesus the Christ, taking on the name of God in the second postition as in marriage, the women takes on the name of the husband. Now let me explain one more detail. God, not alone, and as Scripture would have it, has a very nice, clear explanation of the accompanying female character called Wisdom. She, who is the the manifested Creation in one sense, for receiving the souls or the firmament, as written in the first chapter of Genesis, which maintain or sustain the life of the manifested universe. Such souls manifested are products of the fertilization of the universal womb if you wish, and hence a created, or creation becomes. That said it's one of many but one in completeness as the manifested form, alive and happening, all with operating parts appearing and changing in times of the appropriate cycles. Now coming back to earth, the souls are a manifestitation of the living or the firmament, but are in the world do to opposing views of the Manifested. This is God's play or decorum or stage and is set up to play out as a movie for the firmament, the Hosts of Heaven, at the smame time interchanging the actors on the world stage for the showtime. there is a projector in the shy called the sun and lights up the stage everyday, ans all the actors come out to play their role. And the majority prefer to think the stage is their to control when all along they do not recognize the Sun nor do the recognize the sent sons, who appear on stage as cameo appearenc at times but go unseen by most of the actors. lol. Anyways i'll nip in the bud otherwise it'll be 'as the world turns' by whitehorserides, lol. Theres more to come, lol ok , so as it is written in the Text of the Bible by the Holy Pophets, some of those 'cameo like sons' , (reference Jeremiah 44:4) It is repeated many times that the prophesied son shall appear as 'a thief in the night', which implies that the world is busy in darkness with all it's dark horses leading the way and riding them are many 'beasts of burden', keeeping the world in darkness. YOur refercnces are many but Revelation does reveal them. So it says " be sober, be alert, be ready for you will not know at what hour he may come, because he comes as a total SURPRISE. lol. ok , this has been fun, thank you AC for the opportunity to serve. respectly and soulfully yours in Him. i would wish that you email this to as many friends and foes, as you wish. This should get some people thinking and others reacting. We need more questions along these paths so we all can hear from the Holy Spirit. Peace and may the Lord of life and eternal love shine on you, my soul. > > With warm regards, > ac. > ps; it may need a final edit, but that's all for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 How much text you need just to avoid a bit humbleness. Werner Nisargadatta , " whitehorserides " <green1911@v...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming> wrote: > > > > Hi Ws, > > > > I find your communication style too > > incompatible and I am unable to > > comprehend much of what you wrote. > > > > So, in place of trying to answer > > *what, I don't understand*, please > > allow me to ask you few questions. > > > > > > What is the meaning of? > > > > > > 1. Kingdom of Heaven is amidst you! > > > There is the son of God, or Holy Prophet, when he is sent and in the > flesh as prophecy says, then the kingdom of heaven is amidst you. > Why b/c he carry's the Word with him and his Word is non different > than the Fathers. It is said , " one day with the son is likened to > 1000 years. It's written and correlated to the 2cd advent and the > association of being with the comforter, the prophecied son. The > shortened time = the lenghtened time b/c that heart for the day feels > completely liberated, in the association of the son b/c the son is > not affected by any outside or material conditions, and his > transparency is felt by those whose hearts are sincere in faith and > trust. This cannot be experienced if one is very attached to carnal > physical mind and perceptions. They too would have to be 'like > angels, or saints atleast in a beginning stage. > > > Another application of the kingdom is within you, implies the Holy > Spirit, that is the expanded feature of God, as most intimate friend, > confidant. Here is the delicate balance to be understood. > > Much of mayavadi, impersonalism is based on this idea of becoming > that one. There is a trap in the neophyte stage of sprirtual > realization which is this. > The people of the world are brought up in carnal conscious. Various > practices of yoga can cause the mind, the spirit to come to an > experience of understanding it's not the body. > Here's the catch or trap, gin, or snare, if you wish. > > Some experts are able to make the listeners or practitioners think > through meditational techniques and repetition that they are the > kingdom within. This is tactfully done, while the neophyte student > experiences a sense of seperation between spirit and body and accepts > the so called guru's words as truth and identifies with the > experience through the intellect, in principal and process. The > combination trips up the neophyte student and he remains content > after attaining this state of so called awareness. > > What has actually happened is the beginning stage of realizing the > true-self. In other words, it's like a first step in moving towards > the perfection of yoga, or union =to yoke __with ___God. > > This is were the mayavadi stays and practices the perfection of > aligning the self with the new experience and only rests satisfied > when it's convinced it has become God. Once that state of oneness is > attained in the mind, then complete liberation in that state of bliss > is a constant experience in the one self. Hence, in external > appearence the altered state impresses the neophyte, student. Who > sees that the same is possible through compete surrender of the mind > to the one to merge in that one. > > That is the kingdom within, for the mayavadi, which i had to explain > here even though you asked me about ((my)) understanding of it. Now > there are different types, or disciplines as i have mentioned > elsewhere. This the essence of the thinking. The external activities > will differ accordingly, but the claims are basically the same of > experiencing the kingdom within. > > > now to your ? > > ___as for the 'advanced stage' or understanding the 'kingdom within' > as i know and live it, it is one of respect and appreciation, > communication. Therein a loving intimate bond, realized as eternal > friendship, marriage of trust, truth and perfect faith between 'two' > as in the pure, unconditional and without motive or expectation. > As well as the experince of that relationship, there exists > simultaneously a love towards the external manifested expression of > the Whole. Therefore the respect and appreciation is also outside the > self and looks to the majesty of the Whole. > > Now this permits another feature of the manifested God to reveal > Himself asthrough Divine synchronization in a personal way that is > experienced through the perfected senses of touch, taste, sight, > smell, and hearing. > > This is not possible by the impersonalist b/c of limited sense of > accepting and b/c of the trap of becoming one as, or is, therefore > restricting the experience the other. > Though some disciplines want to claim differently, they actually > cannot get God's assocition b/c they merge the experience as all is > one. This is the blanket, or expression that covers, or satisfy's > that thought. > Basically this can be summed up as one who is blocked and will not > allow another opinion to change his way of thnking. Not allowing the > outside in but seeing the outside as an expansion of what's in. > Therefore once in the the drop merges into the ocean, he's always in > the ocean. > > Conversly since the personalist or lover, friend of God lives in and > with God as in a Mansion, he experiences the differences by feeling > perfectly secure living in the prosperity so designed by the Maker, > which includes all others who also have a similar Father son/daughter > relationship, hence a family of loved ones inclined to sharing caring > and giving, playing , laughing and all in perfect love without any > sense of envy, hate, jealousy, frustration, anger. Because the > experince is shared it's selfless and the selfless giving feeling is > the true freedom feeling of living in the Kingdom. > God does not demand of anything except to expect your love without > motive. Just as He freely distributes, rain, food, and all beauty and > amnenties. The son who lives in the kingdom or experinces the kingdom > within, is also convinced of the kingdom without seeing the complete > loving hand of the Father in His manifested creation, loving equally. > i could go on and on but that should suffice for now. > > > > > 2. Meek shall inherit earth! > > > As it is written the meek are not people walking around with head > down acting in some humble like manner, not being offensive and such. > But the meek are those whose hearts are patiently awaiting the sons > return with complete faith and conviction. Then upon the arrival of > such, the 'ready hearts' are changed and the existing trust and > faith turns into 'meekness' by the admission of being an elected, > son/daughter through the transmition of acting upon God's spoken Word. > There are many ways to say the same, here's one. > The key is written in the Text, it is not external appearence but the > internal heart, that is obliged to the Will of the Father. > It does not have anything to do with net worth or conditions of life. > As it is said " the son shall not come to bring peace ( referring to > extenal) but shall cause divisions among you, father against son, > mother against daughter and so on, b/c 'the meek' are scattered in > all different cultures and families. > According to the Text the 2 cd advent is a time of prosperity, first > implying the many who will be chosen or the meek, a number of 144, > 000 is written, but it's simply a fuigure of speech. There are > millions currently in the world whose hearts are ready hearts to > embrace God in full as with the son, David as he is as the lion of > juda standing in the midst. > That too is the kingdom of God amidst. > Your reference read Rev ch 5 and the appearence of David, confirmed > by Jesus as in Rev 22:16 as one in the same. > > > > > 3. I, father and the Holy spirit are one! > > > This has been labelled as the 'trinity' packaged by the PHD boys. But > the label is not exactly correct. Though there are minor differences > among the christendom, it's still part of the over all blah blah blah. > > i noticed you wrote i, father,_____what's this the impersonal trip > up or tricked up way of making it all sound like everybody is one. > Something like your 'kingdom of heaven is 'amidst' you'. > booth are new to me, but i'm sure you've got your reasons, or some > bogus translation or motive. > > Then again, you may not since you signed with warm regards. > > Anyways here it is, in the conventional way. > > The conventional writing is " I and the father are one' and > 'Father, son and the Holy Spirit',as some trinity. all one and > equally the same. which implies Jesus was fully God and nothing less. > > However, this expression is always faved with the words of Jesus > himself repeating that His FAther in Heaven, the Spirit, was greater > than him. That you life would be left to the Father ultimately to be > delt with and amny other expressions that imply himslef as sent from > and one in word. Another expression taken out of context is ' if you > have seen me you have seen the Father' However, the 'seen' is not > physical but is used in the context of 'to understand' his words. > > The three is an agreement as one in that the son appears for the > Father, for He never comes personally, unlike some eastern mythology > teachings, but in the prescence of all, as a risen or raised son from > the world or conditioned world or spritually dead world. > But as you read of all the Holy Prophets the time of their anointing > is by God and can be anywhere from childhood to late adult years. > The transformed , born again, anointed has no set age fixed to it > because time is irrelevent in eternal time, and as the expression > goes 'it's neve too late'. > > now back to the i, the father the holy spirit are one, is as i gave > a brief in the first response to 'kingdom of heaven amist'. > The oneness is a full realization and experince of the self amist > the Self in union and harmony. You see without seperation there can > be no loving exchange, love is a genuine exchange between two. > you never become your spouse or best friend but by much association > you learn each others habits, thinking patters and a certain > alignment or onesness can appear within the thinking process, but you > never become that person. > > Likewise you never become God, but can become like God, as > Jesus 'said become like gods', though he repeated the OlD Testament. > Jesus never added anything new, This is a big front by the PHD > theologians about the mystery's of Jesus. He was not adding anthing, > he just used his owm language and then modern day expressions to > explain what was allready written, spoken by the Holy Spirit before. > > A simple analogy is, if you repeat what he teacher has said 2+2 =4 > then that is perfect. you can say you are one with the teacher. > > However, as mentioned here parroting is nothing, i agree, parroting > can not change your heart. Neither can vain repetitions, however the > like could cause a self induced kind of blandishing of the mind by > using euphonical sounds to calm the spirit. Again a neophyte stage of > coming to terms with spirit- mind awareness. mantra meditation, hare > krishnas speciality. lol. > > However, the unique characteristics of i, Father, Holy Spirit, is how > i 've written it as i, being less than, still equal to in eternal > make up, whereas to say humility and respectful of my infintessimal > state, but through complete humility and submission to the Perfect > Source, God. > Then you can be taken up by the presence of the manifested Holy > Spirit and the Father if your desire is pure and without any tinge of > desire for any profit, recognition, adoration. > God does not need any profit He owns all, he doesn't need > recognition because He is all, He doesn't need adoration b/c He is > immensely loved by His family and friends, angels. > All He does is provide freely all the goodness to maintain a loving > intimate bonding relationship, with Him and His family and friends. > Therefore son is the same, Holy sons like Father, do not need > anthing, they have all, b/c they are on the inside of the > family/friendship circle through perfect love. > They experience this love 24/7 and are unaffected by change knowing > their eternal realtionship ie the perfection of all yoga, or unifying > in God. Hence they have victory over death implying not only the > death of the physical but of all the effects or the carnal forces in > and around them, both personal and external. > > this is the understanding of i, FAther, Holy Spirit. > > There is perfect detachment and attachment simultaneously and all > thought and action are congruent in One. > Therefore the intelligence of the individual is collapsed and the all > action is one in harmony and peace and will never transgress another. > > therefore sinless, or without sin, or without spot, or without blemish > > Purge your mind from all sin desire, God does not have sin desire, > therefore the perfectional state of oneness is a 'harmony with' not > a 'merging into' as your impersonalists portend. > > Once free from identifying with the self as a part of anything or > even becoming it which is in a sense a part of God. You look to > realize the self as servant. The souls make up is of eternal love, > the character of love in it's pure state as i said before is God > the all giving loving Father. So Jesus said i'm your servant, i'm > messenger, not God the Father, but as god the son. > > therefere you can now understand the name of Jesus the Christ, taking > on the name of God in the second postition as in marriage, the women > takes on the name of the husband. > Now let me explain one more detail. > > God, not alone, and as Scripture would have it, has a very nice, > clear explanation of the accompanying female character called Wisdom. > She, who is the the manifested Creation in one sense, for receiving > the souls or the firmament, as written in the first chapter of > Genesis, which maintain or sustain the life of the manifested > universe. Such souls manifested are products of the fertilization of > the universal womb if you wish, and hence a created, or creation > becomes. That said it's one of many but one in completeness as the > manifested form, alive and happening, all with operating parts > appearing and changing in times of the appropriate cycles. > > Now coming back to earth, the souls are a manifestitation of the > living or the firmament, but are in the world do to opposing views of > the Manifested. This is God's play or decorum or stage and is set up > to play out as a movie for the firmament, the Hosts of Heaven, at the > smame time interchanging the actors on the world stage for the > showtime. there is a projector in the shy called the sun and lights > up the stage everyday, ans all the actors come out to play their > role. And the majority prefer to think the stage is their to control > when all along they do not recognize the Sun nor do the recognize the > sent sons, who appear on stage as cameo appearenc at times but go > unseen by most of the actors. lol. > > Anyways i'll nip in the bud otherwise it'll be 'as the world turns' > by whitehorserides, lol. Theres more to come, lol > > ok , so as it is written in the Text of the Bible by the Holy > Pophets, some of those 'cameo like sons' , (reference Jeremiah 44:4) > It is repeated many times that the prophesied son shall appear as 'a > thief in the night', which implies that the world is busy in darkness > with all it's dark horses leading the way and riding them are > many 'beasts of burden', keeeping the world in darkness. YOur > refercnces are many but Revelation does reveal them. > > So it says " be sober, be alert, be ready for you will not know at > what hour he may come, because he comes as a total SURPRISE. lol. > > ok , this has been fun, thank you AC for the opportunity to serve. > > respectly and soulfully yours in Him. > > > i would wish that you email this to as many friends and foes, as you > wish. This should get some people thinking and others reacting. We > need more questions along these paths so we all can hear from the > Holy Spirit. > > Peace and may the Lord of life and eternal love shine on you, my soul. > > > > > > With warm regards, > > ac. > > > > ps; it may need a final edit, but that's all for me. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > > How much text you need just to avoid a bit humbleness. > > Werner your point is not heard because i'm simply repeating the Word. You think many words imply pride, Well tell the Good Lord there's 66 books do you want to tell Him He's Proud Too. spare me oh werner, turn over rest your mind pray, try yourself to be humble, and ask God to forgive your sins and all your nonsense. That is the beginning for you vain mind. You might be old be that doesn 't matter, give up the chatter, that's all that matters humility is speaking God's Words, Can you understand, remember your father he taught you some things and when you repeated In humility it sings. but to him it made him proud. and when you went out, He stood right behind and said there's son, one of a kind. Pride is when you are attached to what you say. if you read my words i take no credit, because they're not mine to give. Therefore how can you say i'm proud? Just words from my Father like one of a kind. He stands behind. And i am proud of my Kind. WHR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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