Guest guest Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000> wrote: > > Divine Message of His Holiness Shri Datta Swami > > > My dear Christians and Hindus, > > > The spiritual message of Jesus and Krishna are always one and the same in every aspect. where did you get this from datta, every aspect. Jesus always preached for the detachment from the blind worldly bonds like bonds with family members. He stated that unless one is prepared to leave parents, children, money and even life for His sake, one couldn't be His dearest disciple. follow did not imply he wanted disciples, like the conventional modern day you datta thinks, sorry. He always preached the eradication of egoism. Whenever a supernatural act was done by Him, he did not perform any supernatural act, where did you get this garbage from, read your Bible with eyes open and not your carnal mind stuch to literalism. He always claimed that it was due to His Father whose glory is to be propagated. He never owned any supernatural act. He always preached that His Father only grants the boons and all the facilities on this earth. Krishna also told the same points in Gita about detachment (Nirmamah…), removal of egoism (Yadahamkaramasritya…) and sanction of boons by God only (Mayaiva Vihitan…). These three aspects are very important steps to achieve the grace of the Lord. presuming here your, boons are blessings and not requests as the root meaning of the word implies, hence blessing. > > You love your family members and such love gives you some pleasure in your heart. Therefore, your love is only for your self-satisfaction and such love is only selfishness. You are over powered by the emotions of love but you are not analysing by controlling your emotions. If you analyse, you can clearly understand that your love cannot protect either yourself or your family members. If you are talking to regualr folk they will disagree. Nor will yu get even your point understood if you say all love is selfishness, b/c a mother or father will not agree. They really love unconditionally, their children, and that's a given in their mind. Protection is in the physical body sense, but so what if love is their so goes the idea that protection is irrelevent. Your love is only some loss of your precious nervous energy and valuable time. Except this loss there is no use. By emotion you are becoming weak by losing energy. Why are you doing such foolish thing again and again? There is no benefit out of such act and there is only clear loss. you would get a strong arguement from any mother on this point. Even Jesus taught to love the children. Should children be brought up to think they are not loved? Sounds dumb to me, not Jesus's words. > > But if you divert your love towards God, He will protect and develop yourself as well as your family members in this world as well as in the upper world. By spending the same quantum of nervous energy towards God, you are getting all unimaginable benefits forever! Love is not a nervous energy, it comes from God , is pure perfect and calming. And to say to divert your love to God and put your kids on ignore will cause your kids to put you on ignore as well, and you will not feel the love and trust coming back . This is bad philsophy, and not healthy. You must always give your children intimate love, and attention, not that you don't put God first, but you surely don't put stutues and pictures up of blue- green pink and yellow God's all over your house and do all kinds of ritual acts in front of them. The impression into a childs mind is you are doing something like bowing down to pictures of blue looking people with peacock feathers. This Jesus said " " " " " stay away from " " " " " . How wise is this act! By protecting yourself and your family members, you are proving your love towards yourself and your family members. This is the true love. Not really, ritualism or vain repetition or ramblings of words in front of statues and pictures that are lifeless only proves your foolishness. A quantum leep in darkness according to guru Jesus, there datta fella, and surya. The former is only false love, which involves wastage of energy just out of selfishness. Again, to tell mothers they are wasting their love is foolishness. Thus, wise scholars overcome emotions and analyse any point with calm and energetic brain. Wise sholars are not so wise who choose brains over pure emotion. A true philosopher, who who knows Gods love internalized, can understand a so called clod hearted lawyer or physcologist, b/c their analytical brain is always try to put everybody into a box. They practice emotional control to whow they are not weak, when in fact they block true emotions and are even weaker b/c they think themselves superior in all the wise and are trapped in the egoism , BIG TIME of oh i'm so smart. One who loves God and dispays feelings and emotions in the pure sense of love is the more prosperous soul. Jesus showed his love and wept for lazarus, that was of pure love, not weakness. A pure heart, has a pure mind and can understand the motive of the lawyer or wise one, who supresses their emotions of love. Jesus taught to purify your emotions, the soul the seat of love. One does not need to be an intellect to love nor to get Gods favour, so wordly wise and intellectualism can be hazardess on the path of love of God. Gita says to apply the brain always to do the analysis and find out the truth before any action (Buddhow Saranam…). Paul said 'to test the spirits, in his letters. Just don't accept the smart butts who are around you with all their smooth talk and intellectualism, ie knowledge of the Old Testament ie Torah. Beware of wolves in sheeps clothing and smoothe words that are but empty promises. The truth can easily be covered by intellectualism. > > Most of the people are not understanding this truth. Especially this is very clear in the case of parents who blindly love their children with the climax of the emotion spending their maximum precious nervous energy, which is simply wasted without any use for themselves or for their children. I find, sometimes, some parents or elders are talking with just born babies! They talk so many sentences and they no very well that the baby cannot understand even a single word! They waste their nervous and oral energy for such a long time and they feel very great about such foolish act! You are the fool datta, this is nonesense, what do you think? put the kid in front of the statue and let the statue feed him. I DON'T THINK SO. Therefore, try to understand my point without any excitation and try to implement my advice. You can experiment my advice just for a month and then see the tremendous change in your circumstances. Even your explanation is totally ludicrous and without even good sound logic. You need to step back and out of your self imposed i'm above and no love gig, just be a disciple. You are over your head, and in way too deep into vedic hooplah for business purposes and it isn't God's business, it's datta's. > > The next item is eradication of egoism. Whenever you are doing some appreciable act, immediately you disown yourself from such act. You surrender all the credit to the Lord even before somebody praises about it. If some body is praising you for such act, you pass on the ownership to the Lord at once. Otherwise, the wine of egoism will enter your brain and your are intoxicated with the egoism. You are transformed into a demon shortly. Some people disown the praise externally but accept the praise in their minds. This is just like drinking the wine negating it orally. In such case also the intoxication of egoism is inevitable. You are thinking that you are the owner or the master of your family. i hear you talking about youself here. First off it's better to talk about purifying the ego or soul or self with positve afformations instead of eradications. First you say eradicate emotion now eradicate the mind. What you are doing is expaining the statue on the blue gods right in front of you.. i don't know where you've been in the past 30 years but i'll have you know many , many ,many, who have gone forward practicing this type of eradication technique are sadly confused, became very stone clod hearted and have realized the false teachings of this process and are trying to get adjusted in some more normal way but are struggling with it. Eradication in this krishna stuff and twisted bhakti is not too far from the impersonal mayavadi philosophy but just takes a little longer to get into the cold hearted stage of the statue reflection. __________no emotions, no brain just serve and do austerity and sacrifice THIS IS NOT WHAT JESUS TAUGHT SO KEEP THE NAME OUT OF YOUR BS. > > You feel your self as the king or the ruler and you think that your family is your kingdom. This is the climax of foolishness and ignorance. You cannot even rule the organs of your body like heart, kidneys, lungs etc. Even your body is under the control of the Lord only. How can you control other human beings? Therefore, you quit your post of headship of your family. From now onwards you recognise that the Lord is the head of your family. From this moment onwards you feel that you are just a member of your family like any other family member. You belong to the category of " Ruled " and you are not at all the ruler. Now your family and your body are under the control of the divine master. well that's it eh datta, just quit and let God rule. And where did Jesus teach this? leave all up to God and be a little what? slave to Ruler, and who is ruler, you. sorry, not what Jesus taught. Though He said " my FAther in heaven is greater than i " He sid not tell people to stop loving He taught to purify thought and purify your love and to live according to God's Word and live in harmony, showing your love to your brother/sister passionately without transgression. > > If anything happens to your body or to your family, do not get disturbed because the rectification is responsibility of the Lord who is the owner of your body and the family. The owner only has to worry about any disturbance. You are not responsible for either the disturbance or its rectification. Let any problem arise, you keep calm and peaceful. Even if you are disturbed and feel responsible, you cannot do anything. Suppose you are responding to the problem and try for its rectification, even then, you feel that you are acting as instrument or a servant of God to do that work. Here again stuck on servant . slave master thing. God is friend, when you love your friend He will in turn love you. When you do for God. God reciprocates, therefore see God in everyone and do unto others as you would have do unto you. You don't hear yourself speak as all in this direct cold connect to God with blinders on, you see not others but some cold statue or image of god fixated in your mind and you don't see because you are toxic with the image and nothing bothers you b/c you have become INSENSITIVE TO OTHERS and you appear as a freak to most but oh so out there as wow look how enlithtened he is, he's undisturbed by anything. That sense of dhira is self imposed and cold hearted like the statue. You must feel that you are assigned to solve that problem by the order of the Lord. When the problem is solved you must pass on the entire credit to the Lord only. As I told you, you can experiment my advice for a month and see the excellent works of the Lord. You see, here again you must feel (that's obligated not love) to solve ( again intellect use) by the (direct order) like dictator. Then you say problem solved( how many times have you heard women don't want problem solved they just want their husbands to listen) God wants yo to listen to love datta, not just like everything is just a matter of fact ___NEXT__. Those words, as I told you,as the Lord told you is not what Jesus taught. _____ stop putting your words into the mouth of Jesus , he can speak for himself. > > You must always feel that the final granting authority is only the Lord. Except the Lord nobody or nothing or no force is responsible to accomplish anything. Everybody and everything acts according to His wish. Always feel or always intellectualize that God is dictator. The Lord is not seen by you. Therefore, you think that somebody is kind enough to help you. The person who helped you is forced by the Lord to help you. That person is just carrying on the order of the Lord. Even if you scold him, he will not stop helping you. Even if you praise him, he will not help you if there is no sanction from the Lord. A messenger is bringing a signed cheque from the Lord. The Lord is in the house and you are not seeing Him. You have seen the messenger and the cheque in his hand. You are thinking that the messenger is very kind in helping you. You are praising the messenger. The cheque is handed over in the Bank. The staff are arranging for the payment of the cheque to you. You are praising the staff thinking that they are very kind to > help you. It is the duty of the staff to arrange for encashment of the cheque. They will loose their jobs if they are not doing their duties. They are working for the fear of their jobs only. Therefore, you must recognise that the God is the signatory and that He is the account holder. You must understand that the Lord is paying His cash to you. You must analyse the root cause. The root cause is the cheque. The cheque is valid only when it is signed by the account holder. Therefore, you must recognise the force that makes the root cause valid and sanctioning the boons to you. By such deep analysis only, you will find the Lord as the cause of the cause. Then only you will become grateful to the Lord and express your gratitude to the correct person who is the Lord alone. Whenever any favour was granted Jesus used to praise the Lord immediately and expressed His gratitude to the Lord. You must thank the Lord for whatever is given to you already. If you are not satisfied with the > existing facilities, you will never be satisfied even if the Lord grants any number of more facilities. If you already satisfied and feel contented with whatever is given already, the Lord is further pleased to grant further facilities. Therefore, to achieve the grace of the Lord, the contentment with the existing circumstances is essential. This is sounding clearly like a former blue god believer and his trail of madmen. and that would be prabhupada. the idol worshipper. Those stones have taken may hearts down lonely roads and have produced even bigger stones. Therefore, be always satisfied and be always cheerful with whatever you have already. This is the basis for achieving the grace from the Lord in more quantity in the future. You must always express the gratefulness to the Lord for whatever is already granted to you. You should not ask for anything more. When thousands of people came to see Jesus, He was having just four breads in a basket. He did not ask the Lord for more breads. He raised the basket with His hands and praised the Lord for giving those four breads. Immediately the four breads were multiplied to thousands. Well that's your take , you think bread fell from the sky? lol and there were suddenly the magic feast. You better take a second look. i guess that all fits all to well with those giant serpents, like dinasours without offspring or some flying fish story diving through the universe. You forgot one thing man has a vivid imagination and can make pretty pictures from symbolisms, like jesus in mid air or some snake that speaks english and oceans that split apart. i guess those fables and fairy tales fit right upyor alley for all the hindu blue god stuff like this little blue baby walked under groud and lifted up a whole hill to protect the locals from a little rain. ya right datta, stories have taken your mind into some " " " stone cold picnic " " " and you are like one of them spuing all this idol stuff and telling false tales about Jesus to suit your IDOL AGENDA. GET IT DEAD GOD PROPAGANDA. well, you're not alone, even the so called christians teach and underhanded form of mythology but package it a little differently. Gita also says about the necessity of self-satisfaction with the existing > things (Nityatrupto…). He will be rained with infinite grace of the Lord if you follow my advice. Again I suggest that you experiment this for a month and then practice in your life. your pretty stuck on this month thing, how about coming to see me for a month. Let's get the Jesus story right and you can go back to your computor and tell all those people that Jesus was quite the quy that the church teaches but he was more about practicing and teaching a loving brother/sisterhood with a promise to return and there ain't not magic pull rabbits out of hats tricks nor any here's a new arm for you and a new face for you. lol. so datta, get over yourself and straighten up. Stop i say stop trying to make Jesus into some idolator. Did you not read his words obviously not ____________ok there surya, you can even launch this post to your lotus one's feet. that don't touch ground like he thinks jesus' floated in mid air. lol > > All this preaching is only the practical philosophy, which requires firm faith in the preacher. The preacher should be the correct the person. Only the Lord in human form can be such a correct preacher. If you believe a false preacher or an ignorant person as the true preacher, results cannot be seen. If you approach the real water and believe it as the water really, you can put your finger in it and feel the coldness, which is the correct result. If you put your finger in fire, you cannot feel the coldness because it is not water. Similarly the false preacher gives negative results. If you put your finger in air, which is neither water nor fire, your finger neither feels the coldness nor is burnt. Similarly an ignorant person acting as a true preacher can give neither correct result nor the negative result. You will be wasting your time energy with such an ignorant preacher. Therefore, catching the right guide (Satguru) is fundamental step. If you mistake the true > guide as some ordinary guy only, you are loosing. Veda says " Ihachet Avedet…) which means that if you miss the correct preacher in this world in this birth, you are a permanent looser. All those ignorant people who did not recognise Jesus and crucified Him were permanent losers. not necessarily, That whole crucifiction was God's set up in collaboration to fulfill His promise. Even though they committed him to the cross does not imply permanently finished. God is all merciful ans will even pick up the most wretched of all, those guys were just intopxicated with power and position it wasn't a so many thing as you think, it was the ability of a few so called hight powered goverment PHD boys that used their dictating powers to cause the act to go through, but that was God's way of setting up the scene to show the world that it's not the majority but a few that are unruly and the rest follow due to fear imposed on them through their fear tactics. " if you follow him we'll kill you too " . so bottom line datta, if you want to preach krishna blue god stuff do it, if you want to understand Jesus then find someone who knows, him not your governmet rubber stamped phd's, please get a life datta. leave the blue-god stuff alone, prabhupada has allready being here to admit to his shortcomings. And he has moved on. Is that over your head? perhaps you followed some other stone guru in the chain but nevertheless a stone is a stone is a stone. It's all maya. i have read elsewhere that you saay the statues are but stones and only represent God , but all your words are indentical to stone statue worshippers, therefore the results are the same, i can tell just by analyzing ( you like that word) with my heart. Did you hear that datta????????????? my heart. perhaps that may be a clue for you. Krishna blue or black with blue hue or rama green a hindhu with olive hue were not the gods you think they were. They're stories have going far to far and away >Similarly, all the ignorant people who cannot recognise Lord Krishna are loosing the spiritual treasure forever. not quite forever, you are using words that may appear to be similar to the Bible for the occasion, but you are wrong there my friend due to your literal carnal mind, and you literal carnal intellect. you resolve all your teachings to intellectual service. whereas Jesus taught compassionate love._____big difference. Jesus mind was razor sharp, but it was made so by the minds eye of a child. and finally Love the children, and set the example of sinfree life. Unless a child has been given the good loving embrace of the mother and her soft caressing words and comfort of love, then that child will not know how to give love back. Can you even get a glimpse of what i'm saying or are you still stuck intellectalizing my words in that computor of yours. lol i love you datta, but if you publish this stuff in front of me, i will not let it slide. capiche bro. whitehorserides again. without going back and editing i retain the right to correct anything misunderstood as well as elaborate for clarity. peace my friends > > posted by: His servant > at the lotus feet of shri datta swami > www.universal-spirituality.org > > whitehorserides <green1911@v...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba> wrote: > > before Jesus was, I am lololol > at least you remembered something bigwaaba? > to heck with Abraham, lol, it's before jesus. > and what dos that 'I Am' imply for you bw? > whitehorse > > > Personals > Let fate take it's course directly to your email. > See who's waiting for you Personals > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 dear friend All your statements are baseless. Even straightforward meaning of what Jesus preached shows the truth. You could not get the concept of the post. Nowhere Swamiji supported idol worship. Infact He is stressing the worship of Lord in human form after identifying properly with His divine knowledge. Your conclusions are not correct. Lord Jesus cured instaneously many people. those are miracles only and you are denying them. it is gross misunderstanding. You observe the following statements of Jesus. Luke—14:26 to 27 [Mathew: - 11:34 to 38] “If any one comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple’’. Matthew -7: 21 “Not everyone who say to Me, ‘Lord, Lord’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but He who does the will of My Father in Heaven”. generally the people who accepted the true preaching will be named as cowards or accepted out of fear. unfortunately you also concluded like that. anyway does not matter. Swamiji is a scholar par excellence in the scriptures of world religions including Hinduism, Christianity, Islam and Buddhism. He is a master of a variety of spiritual techniques such as yoga, pranayama and mediation. He is a proficient astrologer. Remarkably, He is a scientist and professor of chemistry in an engineering college in India. Commenting a divine preacher is greatest sin. Ofcourse the worth of the preaching is not realized. In the past, sometimes divine preachers were humiliated, sometimes beaten and one time even crucified the preacher. The reason for the repulsion is EGO & JEALOUSY. As sincere seekers of true knowledge and true path to reach Lord, our endeavors should be to learn the truth only. If anybody wants to contradict, he/she should come out with an equal and opposite logic. The attack is on the logic only, not at all personal and also with true intention of sharing the knowledge. at the lotus feet of shri datta swami surya www.universal-spirituality.org whitehorserides <green1911 wrote: Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000> wrote: > > Divine Message of His Holiness Shri Datta Swami > My dear Christians and Hindus, > The spiritual message of Jesus and Krishna are always one and the same in every aspect. where did you get this from datta, every aspect. Jesus always preached for the detachment from the blind worldly bonds like bonds with family members. He stated that unless one is prepared to leave parents, children, money and even life for His sake, one couldn't be His dearest disciple. follow did not imply he wanted disciples, like the conventional modern day you datta thinks, sorry. He always preached the eradication of egoism. Whenever a supernatural act was done by Him, DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000> wrote: > > dear friend > > All your statements are baseless. Even straightforward meaning of what Jesus preached shows the truth. You could not get the concept of the post. Nowhere Swamiji supported idol worship. Infact He is stressing the worship of Lord in human form after identifying properly with His divine knowledge. Your conclusions are not correct. surya my friend, i acknowledged that datta does not accept the statue either in my post and that he advocated to worship god, but i also said his words were non different there the result was the same. " " " " i have read elsewhere that you say the statues are but stones and only represent God , but all your words are indentical to stone statue worshippers, therefore the results are the same, i can tell just by analyzing ( you like that word) with my heart. Did you hear that datta????????????? my heart. " " " " " Listen to what you said " God in human form and i did not get the concept " . CONCEPT HUMM WHO'S THE HUMAN GOD _____DATTA JEE? > Lord Jesus cured instaneously many people. those are miracles only and you are denying them. it is gross misunderstanding. You observe the following statements of Jesus. ____________Nothing gross or musunderstod. The healings were of the spirit. Go tell John ( who was in prison) that the blind are seeing and the deaf hearing, just as Isaiah said would happen. no miracles. Makeing the lepers arm whole did not imply he made a new arm. First off you need to know what a leper is, in context and then you might understand that the leper was healed through faith in the son and his arm was made whole. What was the disease of the arm. The leper was a thief. IN order to be forgiven for sins, other than the JEWS BS rituals of animal sacrifices, which could not remove sin that the gentile leper was healed, forgiven for his sin and made whole again. ___________Likewise blind was not a physical thing but 'sprirtually blind' and those who where dumb to the Words of God were considered deaf as they were in the OT. So Jesus with his razor sharp ability to get into the hearts of the stone cold locals, also convinced the dumb ie 'deaf spiritually to hear and accept God's word, hence confiriming prophecy. > Luke—14:26 to 27 [Mathew: - 11:34 to 38] > " If any one comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple''. ____________The crowds were piling out after him and he needed to get them to back off so he gave them a statement that got their attention, then a couple of analogies. Yet the word 'disciples' was not as you or datta have as an idea of servant, master. Now doubt he wasn't looking for more disciples, he maintained his 12 pack and they were close to him. > > Matthew -7: 21 > " Not everyone who say to Me, `Lord, Lord' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but He who does the will of My Father in Heaven " . _____________That will was not a blue or green god thing. Thou shalt not put any God's before me. Though shalt to serve idols, false Gods. Many places throughout the text are references not to serve or worship hindhu gods and krishna was one of those then. Have you not read? It's filled with not offering foods to these imaginary gods. So how can you compare Jesus with that krisna blue. > > generally the people who accepted the true preaching will be named as cowards or accepted out of fear. unfortunately you also concluded like that. anyway does not matter. ____________There is no such thing as 'true preaching' (whatever that is) in the EASTERN DESERTS They all have fallen to varying forms of NOT GODS. There is nothing baseless about what i write. The entire Bible is filled with inferences of the hindhu gods. Can't you imagine that the god krishna was a prominent god 2000 years ago? > > Swamiji is a scholar par excellence in the scriptures of world religions including Hinduism, Christianity, Islam and Buddhism. He is a master of a variety of spiritual techniques such as yoga, pranayama and mediation. He is a proficient astrologer. Remarkably, He is a scientist and professor of chemistry in an engineering college in India. ______________i realize you admire his education. But he's no master of the the Bible PERIOD, HE'S LOST. Undoubtably his intellectualism is coming across. God is not understood by intellect. He understood through love. If you do the will of the Father then you will get His love or blessings and you need not a PHD degree to love. ___________Do you understand that, the leper wasn't educated but was freed from sin. When did swamajee get freed from sin? by going to school or by following rules and regulations? Many can make a show of devotion but if you are not freed from sin then all is mechanical and your heart is too. He may fil a bus of people but if the bus does not have the proper road map what good is the bus? Words and smarts and mechanical actions does not get someone the desired, result of pure love. understand. want 5 more analogies? > > Commenting a divine preacher is greatest sin. Ofcourse the worth of the preaching is not realized. In the past, sometimes divine preachers were humiliated, sometimes beaten and one time even crucified the preacher. The reason for the repulsion is EGO & JEALOUSY. _____________'divine' is questionable, as for Jesus he said you can't offend me but an offense against the Holy Spirit could cost you. > > As sincere seekers of true knowledge and true path to reach Lord, our endeavors should be to learn the truth only. If anybody wants to contradict, he/she should come out with an equal and opposite logic. The attack is on the logic only, not at all personal and also with true intention of sharing the knowledge. ______________Sometimes the only good medicine is a double dose. It takes a rude awakening sometimes especially for all the garbage datta throws out. Sure he might say some soothing words, but to look at his face in the dress of all those dressed up characters is a HUGE EGO TRIP. HUGE and i'm just trying to get you to see that, obviously he's pretty thick. ____________AGAIN, you are obsessed with the idea of knowledge, attack on logic, i'm constantly attacked for my logic, but logic is not the objective. It's love which is the heart and to see people feel the love. mechanical followers without heart cannot share the same heartfelt love. i don't try to get people to love my logic, i'm not to trying to impress, love and let God. __________i want to hear peoples hearts and how God is speaking to them and how they are enjoying the loving realtionship. Why just have rules and regulations might as well build an army of robots. ____________God's army experiences love and it's filled with variety. it's not about sacrifcie it's not austerity. God is a balanced God. ____________You don't give up anything, you admit to your wrong and rebellious nature, attachment to sin and repent and are forgiven and cleansed. If your body is dirty, do you just put clothes over it. no you clean first. ___________Same principal, unless you clean your heart through repentence and acceptance by God will you make a place for God to hang out. you don't put new wine in and old bottle. _____________What is the process for cleansing in datta preaching. chanting? meditation? running up and down Goverdana Hill , lol. touching swami feet? what is it? > > The spiritual message of Jesus and Krishna are always one and the same in every aspect. ___________--where did you get this from datta, every aspect. >Jesus always preached for the detachment from the blind worldly bonds >like bonds with family members. He stated that unless one is prepared >to leave parents, children, money and even life for His sake, one >couldn't be His dearest disciple. Follow did not imply he wanted disciples, like the conventional modern day that you 'datta' thinks, sorry. He always preached the eradication of egoism. Whenever a supernatural act was done by Him, He did not perform any supernatural act, where did you get this garbage from, read your Bible with eyes open and not your _____________________carnal mind stuck to literalism. peace surya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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