Guest guest Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 On Dec 6, 2005, at 5:07 AM, Nisargadatta wrote: > S: Pete, it will be a great morning when you > Will walk out of your house and burn > All your books... > And then dance around the fire > And jump into the middle of it > You can burn them without feelings of guilt > Nisargadatta has not written a single book > He is in the middle of the fire P: My dear Stefan, So good to hear from you. It always makes me glad to see a post from you, Werner, or Bill. All for One, One for All! eh? ) As far as burning my books, there is no need, I don't read them any more, unless I decide it's time to post a quote. Burning books is a dramatic gesture. I don't need drama to look larger as fanatics do. Christians , Nazis, Communists burn books. > > S: This question you ask to Rider... > Is it this what is moving you? > Someones opinion? > Are you willing to present > Your own opinion here > In front of everybody? > In 10 lines? P: Yes, sure! Here they go! 1) Our Ideas are our prison. 2) Peddlers of holy ideas want to keep you in bondage by making you believe in sin, heaven and hell. 3) Subverting religious ideas is my goal, so people can rest in their sense of existing without conceptuality. 4) Resting in existing, one learns all is needed to know, and one lives the spontaneous life. That is liberation. > > S: Or do you maybe feel now > That this would be a bit lame > (like your call for the moderator) > In face of the questions > Raised by that master > > No problem, Pete... just lets not forget > That the true crusade > Is the crusade into ourself P: Let's not forget to subvert those whose intend is to enslave. And Christian when in control brook no dissent. They burned not only books, you know? What the is Llolita? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie4@e...> wrote: > > > On Dec 6, 2005, at 5:07 AM, Nisargadatta wrote: > > > S: Pete, it will be a great morning when you > > Will walk out of your house and burn > > All your books... > > And then dance around the fire > > And jump into the middle of it > > You can burn them without feelings of guilt > > Nisargadatta has not written a single book > > He is in the middle of the fire > > P: My dear Stefan, > So good to hear from you. It always > makes me glad to see a post from you, > Werner, or Bill. All for One, One for All! > eh? ) > > As far as burning my books, there is no > need, I don't read them any more, unless > I decide it's time to post a quote. Burning > books is a dramatic gesture. I don't need > drama to look larger as fanatics do. > Christians , Nazis, Communists burn books. > > > > > S: This question you ask to Rider... > > Is it this what is moving you? > > Someones opinion? > > Are you willing to present > > Your own opinion here > > In front of everybody? > > In 10 lines? > > P: Yes, sure! Here they go! > > 1) Our Ideas are our prison. yes this is true personal ideas are various traps according to what culture you are raised in their are minor variations > > 2) Peddlers of holy ideas want to keep you in bondage by > making you believe in sin, heaven and hell. This is 100% false, and 100% correct. correct b/c peddlers are those trying to sell what is free. Therefore we now are filled with these fakes, imposters and who promise a false heaven based on faith. Most today are very easy on the sin idea purporting a God of love and a son who died freely for all. And belief is the mere ticket to heaven. Furthermore, they too say that sin life is inevitable and that holiness is impossible. So your holy rolling imposters are not far from your own message of let go and let live. Your point 4 is not far from the Jewish ideal, in it's workings. less all the formal ritualism of the Temple crony's lol But then of course there are the more fundamental orthodoxy who are in their own world with top hats and all, much like the robed Papacy. > > 3) Subverting religious ideas is my goal, so people > can rest in their sense of existing without conceptuality. Yes this is good. b/c religious ideas come from man. The Holy Prophets did not teach religion but did live by eg and in Word represented God, or Hashem. There is no need for the long dresses, and formal ritualism practiced in the OT. Jesus by eg was a man of simplicity wherein less is more, but adherence to God's Word would permit one to enter into the mystique of pure love and Truth hence the unspoken, perfect Spirit of Love available to one who is without any personal motive for adoration, distinction or profit. That is the esence of pure love and the defintion of meekness coupled with prosperity in full liberation. Therefore the principal of self realization is full cooperation with God's Will. Meshing desire, to desire as one incessant flow, that is liberation. That is freedom from any action or reaction. pure conciousness. That bird has flown > > 4) Resting in existing, one learns all is needed to know, > and one lives the spontaneous life. That is liberation. > > > > > > S: Or do you maybe feel now > > That this would be a bit lame > > (like your call for the moderator) > > In face of the questions > > Raised by that master > > > > No problem, Pete... just lets not forget > > That the true crusade > > Is the crusade into ourself > > P: Let's not forget to subvert those whose > intend is to enslave. And Christian when > in control brook no dissent. They burned > not only books, you know? > > What the is Llolita? Those currently enslaving mankind are expert at pulling the mind to and fro by using the media expertly to drive the majority to sense perception and to maximize the output to support there objectives. These are called capitolists, who promote socialisms and there varying offshoots of democracy. lol An they have stretegically in place all those big boy non holy rollers as their right arm god saving bullcrappers. lol there's a new one. They pile the horseshit so high, it make the white house look like camp DAvid LOLOLOLOLOL. i do get carried away don't i, but you know i have to laugh it off. that 's enough here. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie4@e...> wrote: >P: My dear Stefan, >So good to hear from you. It always >makes me glad to see a post from you, >Werner, or Bill. All for One, One for All! >eh? ) If you mean with " all " really " all " ... including the trolls, and if you mean with " one " the totalness of what is... I agree. >As far as burning my books, there is no >need, I don't read them any more... I did not mean my suggestion literally. I am impressed that you have presented your opinion about Nisargadattas message. And surprised. It is amazing how everybody can derive whatever he wants from the work of a master. But the unspeakable which he has tried to convey remains unmoved. >P: Let's not forget to subvert those whose >intend is to enslave. There is only one instance that can enslave and this is the ego. >And Christian when >in control brook no dissent. They burned >not only books, you know? Do you brook dissent? To which degree? >What the is Llolita? I am sorry it has nothing to do with a young woman Lo=Love Li=Life La=Laughter (order may differ) so... LaLiLo Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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