our thoughts__ dear bill

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Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote:

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> billrishel

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, December 08, 2005 6:47 AM

> Re: our thoughts

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> > However,

> > Thoughts are 'things'. Think on these things.

> > And by your deeds 'you' are Known.

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> Thoughts are definitely *not* things.

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> Any more than clouds are things.

>

> Things are mere " playthings " in the

> weaving of words... reality is otherwise.

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> That you are reading these words does not

> mean that the thoughts springing forth from

> their reading are real.

>

> Even the words themselves are without substance,

> shifting forms dissolving appearing dissolving

> in the vibrance of the living moment.

>

> Wherever anywhere is there substance?

>

> Physicists have probed to depths beyond imagining

> and have come up with scattered clouds of quantum

> dreams... all hope of grasping substance glittering

> like quicksilver, and it's gone.

>

> No, there are not " things " , but dreams of things

> aplenty.

>

> But in this shimmering moment it is all flux,

> for dreams cannot live in this bright presence

> this incessant vivid necessity that scatters

> every congealed bond of thought to the wind.

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>

> Bill

>

>

> touch the words 'computer keyboard',

> real enough for me to see between the arcs of light in the

processing of 'you' and 'me'.

>

> see the words I have written on your computer screen -- what make

ye of them?

>

> feel the atoms and the spaces between the beginning of 'you' and

the end of 'me'.?

>

> you are the presence of my absence,

> a flight into an imagination of the only One,

> the One who imagines thoughts are things, such

> as the grace of you and I,

>

> and the love the proceeds these thoughts, these things, these

dreams, these awakenings,

>

> the light of awareness..drifting off to sleep...to

dream..perchance to dream...

>

> Ana

>

 

Bill ;

 

i sue what ana was implying is that there is some substance to words,

for they are the operative function for sound putting into action and

hence substance.

 

a salesmans words are just words but in begins a process of filling

an order and many steps are taken to see it's end hence a complete

circle from the words to generate a flow of action to satisfy the

words,

 

So to dismiss words and compare them to clouds as equal is

foolishness and you might need a pill for that thinking from a

psychiatrist.

 

Not all words edify, just like not all actions edify.

And that is at the root of all existence, life and purpose. If action

does not edify then there is the opposite or destruction as with

words, that is the Word of the Holy Spirit.

 

so lets see, not all clouds bring rain, not all water is good, so NOT

ALL IS ONE.

 

Yes all is one, from the One but there are distinctions and if you

don't recognize distinctions then you mistake the hotel for

bathtroom door_____________get the picture.

 

Don't try to package God up in one .

 

Your thought of painting is not mine , though i think about painting

the source may be the same as in th spirit, but let's not confuse the

your sprirt to mine.

 

do you have kids, are they one or two? Do you tell both kids the same

thing all the time , no. ok but you do it with the source of the

words being in LOVE. right_____ so love is the same coming from your

Soul, but still differences exists.

 

So what is this you are trying to say really? All is One?

 

yes and different, nhence the opportunity to share in LOVE.

 

You seem to miss sharing, caring, giving, but i bet you do.

 

but your ideas of it are bent, thinking there is no Source or God

it's as you see, giving it_____________________that's the problem!

 

You have a father in flesh, but none in Spirit, denying the very

existence from which you've come.

 

You hear that, There is no Soul, you are that Soul ___ in your mind.

 

You are God._____________spiritual suicide bud. impersonalism