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On Dec 13, 2005, at 1:19 PM, Nisargadatta wrote:

 

> Quality of being is consciousness

>

> Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba> wrote:

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>>

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>> i'm just waiting for your next opinion on Nisargadatta :)

>>

> this is the irony of life, isn't it...when whitehorse interprets

> maharaj for the seasoned members? hahaha

 

P: No Hur, don't blame life. It's your irony, you are

the one who keeps him here, not life, not us. You!

>

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Hi Pete, this is a little different than a Satsang room where in the

cyber space there is more room, creating the room virtually (not to

worry Frank, I didn't say out of nothing...no Buddhist nihilism

here). Besides, most of us have the luxury of skipping or deleting

his messages. Frank is not a common garden variety Christian but

someone with Eastern Spirituality background who regressed/progressed

(depending on interpretation) into his dualistic roots (no matter how

his experience may have been different than our subjective experience

I think if you switch his words Spirit/Father with

Consciousness/Absolute there's not that much difference from nondual

fundamentalism). He's a stranger that wandered into our little part

of the universe and in this particular group, he's an exotic variety

to be examined for the time being. When you really consider the

statistical possibility, we should have more visitors like

Frank...and Frank insists on staying for some reason. Why? I think

he knows the reasons and perhaps it's because of his past Eastern

Spirituality experience he feels more at home? Is it the beedie smoke

or the curry smell?

 

My problem with his membership is that he posts at the speed of a

machine gun and it's questionable how relevant his posts are to the

particular topic but he deserves the due process and considering the

passion he has, I really think he should start his own group. Come on

Frank, start your group, post the link and get it over with.

 

Hur

 

Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie4@e...> wrote:

>

>

> On Dec 13, 2005, at 1:19 PM, Nisargadatta wrote:

>

> > Quality of being is consciousness

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba>

wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> i'm just waiting for your next opinion on Nisargadatta :)

> >>

> > this is the irony of life, isn't it...when whitehorse interprets

> > maharaj for the seasoned members? hahaha

>

> P: No Hur, don't blame life. It's your irony, you are

> the one who keeps him here, not life, not us. You!

> >

>

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Nisargadatta , " Hur " <hur@n...> wrote:

>

> Hi Pete, this is a little different than a Satsang room where in

the

> cyber space there is more room, creating the room virtually (not to

> worry Frank, I didn't say out of nothing...no Buddhist nihilism

> here). Besides, most of us have the luxury of skipping or deleting

> his messages. Frank is not a common garden variety Christian but

> someone with Eastern Spirituality background who

regressed/progressed

> (depending on interpretation) into his dualistic roots (no matter

how

> his experience may have been different than our subjective

experience

> I think if you switch his words Spirit/Father with

> Consciousness/Absolute there's not that much difference from

nondual

> fundamentalism). He's a stranger that wandered into our little part

> of the universe and in this particular group, he's an exotic

variety

> to be examined for the time being. When you really consider the

> statistical possibility, we should have more visitors like

> Frank...and Frank insists on staying for some reason. Why? I think

> he knows the reasons and perhaps it's because of his past Eastern

> Spirituality experience he feels more at home? Is it the beedie

smoke

> or the curry smell?

>

> My problem with his membership is that he posts at the speed of a

> machine gun and it's questionable how relevant his posts are to the

> particular topic but he deserves the due process and considering

the

> passion he has, I really think he should start his own group. Come

on

> Frank, start your group, post the link and get it over with.

>

> Hur

>

> Hi Hur,

 

maybe you could give the group a new name.....

 

how about " the church of whitehorse " ....

 

or...... " listing of all (failed) dual concepts " ...

 

.....or....maybe " the convinced dual dreamers " ...

 

.....:)

 

or whatever......

 

a nice christmas tree instead of the Niz photograph would reflect

more this image of " serving oneself " ......instead of " serving oneSelf "

 

......joking....

 

but ok....as long this endless messages go on......there is a chance

to keep on being (feeling) non-dualist.......at heart......:)

 

....and the dualists in here......get little energy....to keep on

dreaming a dual concept.....

 

Regards

 

Marc

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Nisargadatta , " Hur " <hur@n...> wrote:

>

> Hi Pete, this is a little different than a Satsang room where in

the

> cyber space there is more room, creating the room virtually (not to

> worry Frank, I didn't say out of nothing...no Buddhist nihilism

> here). Besides, most of us have the luxury of skipping or deleting

> his messages. Frank is not a common garden variety Christian but

> someone with Eastern Spirituality background who

regressed/progressed

> (depending on interpretation) into his dualistic roots (no matter

how

> his experience may have been different than our subjective

experience

> I think if you switch his words Spirit/Father with

> Consciousness/Absolute there's not that much difference from

nondual

> fundamentalism). He's a stranger that wandered into our little part

> of the universe and in this particular group, he's an exotic

variety

> to be examined for the time being. When you really consider the

> statistical possibility, we should have more visitors like

> Frank...and Frank insists on staying for some reason. Why? I think

> he knows the reasons and perhaps it's because of his past Eastern

> Spirituality experience he feels more at home? Is it the beedie

smoke

> or the curry smell?

>

> My problem with his membership is that he posts at the speed of a

> machine gun and it's questionable how relevant his posts are to the

> particular topic but he deserves the due process and considering

the

> passion he has, I really think he should start his own group. Come

on

> Frank, start your group, post the link and get it over with.

>

> Hur

>

> Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie4@e...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > On Dec 13, 2005, at 1:19 PM, Nisargadatta wrote:

> >

> > > Quality of being is consciousness

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba>

> wrote:

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> i'm just waiting for your next opinion on Nisargadatta :)

> > >>

> > > this is the irony of life, isn't it...when whitehorse interprets

> > > maharaj for the seasoned members? hahaha

> >

> > P: No Hur, don't blame life. It's your irony, you are

> > the one who keeps him here, not life, not us. You!

> > >

> >

 

 

 

good eve Hur.

 

i have gone 5 hours, so i'm good. i know you may not see this till

tomorrow but here you go.

 

This is the point here. You are demonstrating detachment, whereas P

is showing attachment. by this i'm saying he has a personal invested

interest in seeing me go. He's effected in 'his mind' b/c i'm here,

therefore he's not free. He doesn't see beyond the I, pete. nor do a

few others. So through familiarity they apply pressure.

 

you say look it's interesting, he has come and brought a

new________energy, color, to the forum, what is it that he has, let's

wait and see?

While they are into the 'tradtional troll definition' the so called

standard troll, which is selfish person no doubt. There's no doubt

that there are cross over's in my personality but if you read between

the lines you will see a selfless person. I say it's not about you,

it's about us. Pete stays stuck in i, me, mine, exclusive importance,

fueled by ego,but a says the group.

 

This is at the root of all the problems in spiritual circles. Go to

GR ratings or sufi and see how everyong is just talking at, not to,

or with. It's the failure of the personal 3d interactive intercourse

of cyberspace to show the true character of 'love'.

Love is the missing ingrediant. So far all the conversation here is

mechanical sprirtualism, individual parts.

 

People are acting as independent parts of the car as opposed to

cooperative parts their function, seeing there need.

However, if you notice as soon as i came along there is a sudden " hey

i'm here, i'm the one that knows, who are you! " .

It's like a stranger coming into town with an agenda and the cops are

immdiately behind him checking out his plate number. Then they follow

him around and with ther walkie talkies they stay in touch and record

his every move.

" oh look he's now talking to BBB, should we wave at BBB or just

drive by all the time, as a reminder? " . OH look, he just went into

the bakery, he's been in there too long, mary just called from the

bakery and said " the stranger, is a smooth talking cool hand luke,

and tina is enomaored by his voice " ,____ " tell him your closing

early today! " .

" oh he's now in the public square and there's a group around, lets

just keep 'circling the square' lol. He might get a hint we're onto

him, and he might just get on his high horse and high tale it out of

town " .

man can he talk, there's a whole gang there all in chitter chatter,

Is he selling them something?. What's he got in that mouth of his,

that never stops? Think maybe we should just kind of point a barrel

at him? or should we just all go over and kind of show him the way

out, as just the same way as he came in, maybe he can take a hint. Or

we could all four of us perhaps intimidate him, if he doesn't get the

hint, well just bully him out, and if he can't get the hint then, and

fights back, we'll shoot him, that's all. Then we'll back each other

up telling the press " " he made a move first, towards us and we had

now choice, and the 'horse' died valiantly, but quickly. And of

course the press and all the townspeople will be behind us after

all " WE are the BIG boys "

This is OUR turf, WE run the show, WE get the adoration, WE the

praise, WE are, after all the MODS, like GODS, or GODS disguised as

MODS.______ or was that hahaha.

Yet Hur, says 'oh interesting'.......

You see hur,( you get a kick out of that name, don't ya) pete

says " it's you hur. who's allowing him to stay " . suddenly

distinction, therefore all god's are not the same, not one.

 

no matter how hard you try, you fall back into the unique perspective

of recognizing individuality and choice, and subsequent consequenses.

The only thing consistent is choice and consequence.

Cause and effect. It's not all just cause, nor just effect.

But the language is used to twist what is for what is not, or not is.

 

an easy sell b/c it permits a free spirit.

 

free choice, in the name of ______one_____now_____here_____live.

 

 

And there's no arguement here, about that point. You are defenseless!

 

 

 

There's no rules, no accountability______EASY SELL.

 

So goes secularism, and the democractic freedoms, no difference.

 

Except for the looking down the nose, in the so called self

conscious of 'I Am' and 'You are' 'be now', ____wow! what a

concept, or the --no concept--

 

 

And you think, this is some magic spiritual state, and some of you

are espousing it to be the 'all in all' or 'one is one' or 'all is

one.'_______________endless ____oneness__isms ___LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

 

Others go into the dissecting mode of the functionality of the

spirit, mind and thought, emotions and there interactive roles.

 

And you brush yourselves with 'wow', did that sound cool?, did i do

well expaining that or what? Did those words explain it well? All

looking to each other for acknowlegement and self praise. listen

carefully ___ego tripping.

 

Where do i get my satisfaction, if no one is saying hey whitehorse

that sounded cool! where? So what's ironic? is the very expression

you speak of being self satisfied, is what i exhibit that you say is

selfish,______that's why i get belly laughs at all this. you speak

of being where 'I Am " . lol, and i'm hated b/c of it.

Why

b/c i'm detached, free, claim no credit, how can i come up with this?

You say machine gun rapid fire, and i'm only really using a single

shot hand gun right now.

 

you ain't seen nothing yet!!!!! Hur. but, you do recognize there is

something else behind me that's causing this passion.

 

 

 

It's called ______________________LOVE__________I'm in LOVE.

 

 

There is no stronger passion than love.

 

So what is it, that i love???????????????????????????????

 

 

Question for the mute, lol.

 

ana, first b/c she loves me.

(:-_______________________________(*_*)________________________.

 

 

 

 

i've got a stable full of whitehorses, want to come for a ride?

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