Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Nisargadatta , " whitehorserides " <green1911@v...> wrote: > > > > > answer the questions??? > > > what's wrong with you guys? > > i don't Niz except for what little i read. > > so is he a guru that says everything in, moderation, good sex, > married sex, good beedee. > > have you ever been to India, any of you? > > do you get a new name with Niz guru, > > do you smoke good dope? > > i don't know?_________there's many beedee guru's too. > everything you can imagine in India, has a god for it? > > gods for good sex, so when you climax you chant their names. > > this is not a stupid ? > > Why are you guys letting me carry on? > > everything is in the now. When you see the ? it's now > stay in the now , answer the question > > > > you see the difference between me and you , > > i live in the now, straight , honest , truthful always there, never > going to play mindfuck games, it's straight what you see is what you > get > > that's guru, that's living in the now. > > > now who's stuck? i respect Nisargadatta like i have respect to other realised beings too......this could be a Ramakrishna, Yogananda, Jesus, Ramana, Muktananda, Shankara, Babaji Maharaj.....-Group..... never met Nisargadatta for real..... have another Guru (realized person) i once met so i can't realy answer all kind of this your questions...... non-duality, Advaita....is what " connect " all this (different) realized Masters..... they reflect the truth.......for all times some " others " reflect some truth.....only in deep sleep.... i think that you have a strange " idea " of the relationship of student to Guru...... indead.....a Guru reflect the (individual) soul of oneself.... there is no seperation between Guru to student..... like there is also no seperation between " you " , the " tree " , a Guru, the sky, the flower, ....... some don't even want to identify with trees...flowers........ and they don't know and experience that all this (included themself) appear......only by Maya..... ....as reflection of changless and formless Brahman what exactly is your problem WH....? maybe you could try to answer to this Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " whitehorserides " > <green1911@v...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > answer the questions??? > > > > > > what's wrong with you guys? > > > > i don't Niz except for what little i read. > > > > so is he a guru that says everything in, moderation, good sex, > > married sex, good beedee. > > > > have you ever been to India, any of you? > > > > do you get a new name with Niz guru, > > > > do you smoke good dope? > > > > i don't know?_________there's many beedee guru's too. > > everything you can imagine in India, has a god for it? > > > > gods for good sex, so when you climax you chant their names. > > > > this is not a stupid ? > > > > Why are you guys letting me carry on? > > > > everything is in the now. When you see the ? it's now > > stay in the now , answer the question > > > > > > > > you see the difference between me and you , > > > > i live in the now, straight , honest , truthful always there, never > > going to play mindfuck games, it's straight what you see is what > you > > get > > > > that's guru, that's living in the now. > > > > > > now who's stuck? > > > i respect Nisargadatta like i have respect to other realised beings > too......this could be a Ramakrishna, Yogananda, Jesus, Ramana, > Muktananda, Shankara, Babaji Maharaj.....-Group..... > > never met Nisargadatta for real..... > have another Guru (realized person) i once met > > so i can't realy answer all kind of this your questions...... > > non-duality, Advaita....is what " connect " all this (different) > realized Masters..... > > they reflect the truth.......for all times > > some " others " reflect some truth.....only in deep sleep.... > > i think that you have a strange " idea " of the relationship of student > to Guru...... > > indead.....a Guru reflect the (individual) soul of oneself.... > > there is no seperation between Guru to student..... > > like there is also no seperation between " you " , the " tree " , a Guru, > the sky, the flower, ....... > > some don't even want to identify with trees...flowers........ > > and they don't know and experience that all this (included themself) > appear......only by Maya..... > > ...as reflection of changless and formless Brahman > > > what exactly is your problem WH....? > > maybe you could try to answer to this > > Marc > no PROBLEM I FOLLOW THE HOLY PROPHETS LIFE, but they denounce all hindhu pagan gods. the eastern indian gods are what Moses broke from for just God God in Spirit, bu there are living standards for God in the HOLY spirit HOLT = PERFECT, completely one with God but sai baba also teaches he's God and he screws all the devotees. many guru's have fallen to sex and mmany promote sex as the good. so guru's of Siva, some of no gods, jus timagination God, but many of those promote moral life. some dance in the streets like crazy men and they are one with God. india is sick with millions of ideas_____what's Niz's. the Holy Porphets speak and teach oneness with god in love and living in the moment with God in word deed and action, but rodeo gymnastic sex, with viagra and butt stuff is not good, is not practiced or taught. Holy Prophets taught to be vegetarian, not flesh eaters, to love the brothers/ sisters and to live in community, harmmony and unity as one without sin life. all is not one in Holiness, maqndoesn't decide what is Holy or what feels good f___it. God in the Holy Spirit is available and only if you cooperate. You cannot know God or be one with god unless you live according to His will. It's not a free for all love now, thing. something like you say marc. what's Niz's take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Nisargadatta , " whitehorserides " <green1911@v...> wrote: > > > Why are you guys letting me carry on? > Hmm..I think they're trying to find a way to shut you up? As for your questions, you won't get any answers. Nonduality is not a prescriptive path, ie the guru does not tell you what to do or how to live your life...but it's descriptive. Nonduality teachings (as explained yesterday) are embarassingly simple: *You are consciousness.* I don't know how many ways a guru can repeat that. This is the simplicity of self knowledge. As for actions, in nonduality, actions happen according to biological and enviromental programming and there's no identification with the actions. Before you are alarmed and super ego, the Father figure kicks in, let me tell you that most people who are familiar with nonduality teachings have been around the spirituality block and they are moral people. Hur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Hur " <hur@n...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " whitehorserides " > <green1911@v...> wrote: > > > > > > > Why are you guys letting me carry on? > > > Hmm..I think they're trying to find a way to shut you up? As for > your questions, you won't get any answers. Nonduality is not a > prescriptive path, ie the guru does not tell you what to do or how > to live your life...but it's descriptive. Nonduality teachings (as > explained yesterday) are embarassingly simple: > > *You are consciousness.* I don't know how many ways a guru can > repeat that. This is the simplicity of self knowledge. > > As for actions, in nonduality, actions happen according to > biological and enviromental programming and there's no > identification with the actions. Before you are alarmed and super > ego, the Father figure kicks in, let me tell you that most people > who are familiar with nonduality teachings have been around the > spirituality block and they are moral people. > > Hur > hur thanks for telling me nothing, but you did say moral By who's standard is morality based on .Sai baba guru prabhupada, Niz Bush bin laden Sharon or each to his own. undertstanding consciousness as applied yesterday was living in the now in the Absolute. In the Absolut there is only love and never lust. Lust ia fabrication of the mind dwelling on personl ideas, or concepts, therefore the lusty mind falls into traps that the emotions are kicked in. Now one who is free from lust, does not anticipate nor does he go backwards in thought to relish or enjoyu a past experince. That is the pure mind one with the Absolute and is purely moral and cannot sin, b/c it's beyond the physical bodily conceptions or feelings._______________-understand___that's coming from Guru a guru's mind that is linked with the Supreme Guru ie God. so what 's the subject, when you say the will be no answers to the sex issue , then i have exposed a weakness. disease, why is it we can talk about all else? is there something so secret about sex._____________not for me no attachment , no lust no feeling s . i live in the now.____ know you have heard from a true guru, not a fake not a hindhu wanna be . that's why i want to know if my brother Niz was a liberated soul or just bullcrap, nothing wrong with knowing that. let's me know what also the others are thinking here and i can speak accordingly. Andyou can also know my postion on life and what is. comprendo hur thanks for the opportunity to speak love ya, man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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