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Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote:

>

> Have a look here:

>

> http://www.law.uchicago.edu/news/nussbaum_upheaval.html

>

> Interesting point:

> Emotions are judgements about things.

>

> Looking closer one also could say:

> Emoitions are the result of judging about things.

>

> Question :

> Can there be any judgement without mental activity ?

>

> Werner

>

 

J. Krishnamurti would say: " the [individual] mind wants everything to

be final " When we say: " I love my wife " , then that is not love but a

rememberance and a mental image that one has a loving relationship

with. That kind of love, is, according to K not love at all but only a

sense of possession and sentimentality.

 

al.

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On Dec 16, 2005, at 5:16 AM, Nisargadatta wrote:

 

> Have a look here:

>

> http://www.law.uchicago.edu/news/nussbaum_upheaval.html

>

> Interesting point:

> Emotions are judgements about things.

>

> Looking closer one also could say:

> Emoitions are the result of judging about things.

>

> Question :

> Can there be any judgement without mental activity ?

>

> Werner

>

>

 

P: Good article Werner, thanks, let's look at the main

premise:

 

" Start with emotions. What are they? What does it mean to say I feel

something? One controversial answer to this question, associated with

the Greek (and later Roman) philosophers known as Stoics, asserts that

emotions are judgments about things. "

 

P: Emotions are feelings produced by hormones. The release of

these hormones can be triggered by perception, or by thought,

and perception, of course, is colored by thought. Let's look

at fear. If by the corner of my eye I see a large blur jumping

at me, adrenalin pours into my brain, I feel fear, and I dock.

No thought was involved. But if I was locked in a small closet

as a child, my thoughts view such places as dangerous, and

the mere thought of being trapped in an elevator causes fear.

This fears could be defused by stripping small closed places

of those thoughts which make then look dangerous.

 

In other words there is a loop perception/thought/hormone each

component reinforcing the other.

 

 

 

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Hi Pete,

 

My observations with fear are different. Fear will only arise when

there is a danger and you try to escape from. When there is no

impulse to move away from that danger then fear can't arise. Fear

without any preceding impuls to escape is not possible.

 

And any kind of escape is thought.

 

Werner

 

 

Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie4@e...> wrote:

>

>

> On Dec 16, 2005, at 5:16 AM, Nisargadatta wrote:

>

> > Have a look here:

> >

> > http://www.law.uchicago.edu/news/nussbaum_upheaval.html

> >

> > Interesting point:

> > Emotions are judgements about things.

> >

> > Looking closer one also could say:

> > Emoitions are the result of judging about things.

> >

> > Question :

> > Can there be any judgement without mental activity ?

> >

> > Werner

> >

> >

>

> P: Good article Werner, thanks, let's look at the main

> premise:

>

> " Start with emotions. What are they? What does it mean to say I

feel

> something? One controversial answer to this question, associated

with

> the Greek (and later Roman) philosophers known as Stoics, asserts

that

> emotions are judgments about things. "

>

> P: Emotions are feelings produced by hormones. The release of

> these hormones can be triggered by perception, or by thought,

> and perception, of course, is colored by thought. Let's look

> at fear. If by the corner of my eye I see a large blur jumping

> at me, adrenalin pours into my brain, I feel fear, and I dock.

> No thought was involved. But if I was locked in a small closet

> as a child, my thoughts view such places as dangerous, and

> the mere thought of being trapped in an elevator causes fear.

> This fears could be defused by stripping small closed places

> of those thoughts which make then look dangerous.

>

> In other words there is a loop perception/thought/hormone each

> component reinforcing the other.

>

>

>

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